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Title: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: trash heap on September 14, 2009, 11:55:01 PM
Here is a good one for USBC rules. A team joins a league (4 players to a team) and its the first night. Two team members do NOT show up on the first night. They are on this team's roster but obviously have not bowled in the league yet. Do you use a Vacancy Score or an Absentee Score?


For this league there is a Absentee Rule in place that counters the USBC one. So there would be a difference between using one or the other.

 
I am leaning towards using the Absentee Score.
Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: triggerman on September 15, 2009, 08:00:08 AM
depends on if the league uses book average the first night or lets everyone set their average, if the book average is used I would lean towards absentee scores, if you establish your average the first night, then vacancy

we had this on thurday this year, but since we use book average, to start the league with, we put in the absentee score
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Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: Krakken on September 15, 2009, 09:33:35 AM
MY take is if you put an absentee score in, then those players are on the hook for the Bowling fees for that night.  If you use a vacancy they are not, since the spot is technically not filled yet, and the league isn't responsible for it being paid to the house.
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Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: TTforshort on September 15, 2009, 09:47:44 AM
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MY take is if you put an absentee score in, then those players are on the hook for the Bowling fees for that night.  If you use a vacancy they are not, since the spot is technically not filled yet, and the league isn't responsible for it being paid to the house.
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This is the way I treated both leagues that I was a secretary. If the abscent bowlers made the fees up, the prize fund benefited. The house never charged the lineage if no one bowled the first night.

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Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: Atochabsh on September 15, 2009, 09:54:25 AM
If they have not started the league (even if they intend to) you should use a vacancy score.  

Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: Sean John 369 on September 15, 2009, 01:55:46 PM
I would say use a vacancy because the individual has not started the league yet.
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Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: NY Mike on September 15, 2009, 02:04:14 PM
You would need to use an absentee score.   A bowler doesn't exist in a league until he throws a ball.  You can use any name to fill out a roster, i.e. Chris Barnes, Norm Duke and then replace them week 2.
Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: golfnutFL on September 15, 2009, 02:11:06 PM
+1

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If they have not started the league (even if they intend to) you should use a vacancy score.  

Title: Re: Use Absentee or Vacancy.
Post by: laufaye on September 15, 2009, 04:04:50 PM
A team can put down any names on the roster and use the absentee scores if there is an entering average, i.e. if the league is using last year book etc, as long as that spot is paid for the first night.

I do not agree with it, but I have checked with USBC, this is it.  Of course the league can have a different rules to address this matter.
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