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Title: using ball cleaners....
Post by: xrayjay on December 02, 2014, 03:34:34 PM
during leagues. how many of you or know someone that does this?

lately balls be returing from the belts all black skid marked...

I find these marks on my track and im not sure if it really affects ball reaction, but it's starting to bug me mentally..

if you use cleaners during leagues, how often?
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 02, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
I use the powerhouse cleaner during league play when my ball comes back with one of the black skidmarks on it. Somehow, it's always in my track.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: xrayjay on December 02, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Milo, has anyone ever approached you about it? I know it's legal to use cleaners, but many bowlers don't know that. They may think someone is cheating by using cleaners lol...just wondering...
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: NHLfan88 on December 02, 2014, 04:00:36 PM
if you did that while bowling against me, that ball would be in your bag the rest of the night.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 02, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
if you did that while bowling against me, that ball would be in your bag the rest of the night.

No it wouldn't.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 02, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
Milo, has anyone ever approached you about it? I know it's legal to use cleaners, but many bowlers don't know that. They may think someone is cheating by using cleaners lol...just wondering...

I've had a few idiots try it.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on December 02, 2014, 04:05:51 PM
There are cleaners approved for use DURING play, and others designed and approved for before or after only.  Therein lies the difference.

Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: charlest on December 02, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
Milo, has anyone ever approached you about it? I know it's legal to use cleaners, but many bowlers don't know that. They may think someone is cheating by using cleaners lol...just wondering...

That's funny/ironic.
I started carrying copies of that segment of the USBC rule book dealing with cleaning your ball during play. I knew some of the old timers would doubt the legality of it and the lanes where we were bowling had started having disintegrating belts that usually put those black marks on balls.

Sure enough, some guy started yelling at me that I can't do that. Even after I showed him the paperwork, he still didn't really believe it.

I use LMB international cleaner (formerly known as Lane Master cleaner) to clean those marks off. I only do that when they appear. Otherwise I wait until bowling was over to clean my balls.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: xrayjay on December 02, 2014, 04:33:39 PM
if you did that while bowling against me, that ball would be in your bag the rest of the night.

No it wouldn't.

NHLfan88, He's so tough and funny hehehe.... A bumper sticker I saw years ago at the golf course......"toucha my ball I breaka yo face!"
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 02, 2014, 04:48:26 PM
if you did that while bowling against me, that ball would be in your bag the rest of the night.

No it wouldn't.

NHLfan88, He's so tough and funny hehehe.... A bumper sticker I saw years ago at the golf course......"toucha my ball I breaka yo face!"

I would just tell him, "Lighten up Francis"  ;D
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 02, 2014, 04:51:06 PM
Milo, has anyone ever approached you about it? I know it's legal to use cleaners, but many bowlers don't know that. They may think someone is cheating by using cleaners lol...just wondering...

That's funny/ironic.
I started carrying copies of that segment of the USBC rule book dealing with cleaning your ball during play. I knew some of the old timers would doubt the legality of it and the lanes where we were bowling had started having disintegrating belts that usually put those black marks on balls.

Sure enough, some guy started yelling at me that I can't do that. Even after I showed him the paperwork, he still didn't really believe it.

I use LMB international cleaner (formerly known as Lane Master cleaner) to clean those marks off. I only do that when they appear. Otherwise I wait until bowling was over to clean my balls.

That's why I use Powerhouse, when one of them starts making a stink, I just point to the label.

Besides, if they get their panties in a twist over me cleaning my ball with a legal to use cleaner, that means I will win the point 9 times out of 10.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: xrayjay on December 02, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
I use Rx and Kevin (owner) mentioned that he uses it too during leagues, but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on December 02, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
if you did that while bowling against me, that ball would be in your bag the rest of the night.

No it wouldn't.

NHLfan88, He's so tough and funny hehehe.... A bumper sticker I saw years ago at the golf course......"toucha my ball I breaka yo face!"

I would just tell him, "Lighten up Francis"  ;D

+1 Everyone says tough stuff on the internet.
But back on topic I use Powerhouse Cleaner if I get random marks on my balls  ;D
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: Antec on December 02, 2014, 09:17:16 PM
A couple weeks ago I got called out for using some cleaner at the start of game 2, by my own teammate. I was just giving my ball a quick wipe down at the table, he says to the group, "I smell citrus". I said yea it's this cleaner (Powerhouse). He said you can't use that, at first I thought he was joking. So I explained the rules, my rule book was at home, never again. He still didn't believe me, I showed him the bottle pointed out the approval on the label, then he said "I am pretty sure that's not what that means, you can't use it". I told him I wasn't  going to argue it, but what I was doing was perfectly fine. Then he says " Well I don't think anyone saw you so it's okay, just put it away". I left it on the table, and continue to put it on the table every week.

While this was going on the other three teammates were just listening with a confused look on there faces. They started passing the bottle around and reading it. I then asked don't you guys clean your gear? They all shook their heads no. One spoke up and said he uses that thing, and made a motion with his hands (see saw). I thought OMG what am I dealing with. LOL
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: Brickguy221 on December 02, 2014, 11:02:27 PM
Like Charlest, I carry a copy of the approved cleaners as I have been challanged at times of the legality of my cleaning my ball during competition. Also show them my Remedy RX bottle where it says it is legal.

I have just recently begun using the Masters Leather Pad to wipe my ball each time I get up to bowl, so I no longer use the ball cleaner during competition unless it gets black marks on it.

After using the Masters Pad during 3 game set, I use Remedy RX to give ball a final cleaning and believe it or not, after cleaning my ball with the cleaner and a microfiber towel when done bowling having done this 7 times now since getting the Pad, my towel remains clean as if it was just washed, thus the Pad works even better than advertised.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: ValentinoBowling on December 03, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
I use our cleaner, Remedy RX, on every strike shot. I spray it into a towel and wipe the oil off. I was hassled by a group of people I was bowling better than....so I carry the rules section regarding cleaners, the list of approved cleaners and also a letter from the USBC which states that players can use approved cleaners on their towels in between shots.

-Kevin

Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 03, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I use our cleaner, Remedy RX, on every strike shot, I spray it into a towel and wipe. I got hassled by a group of people I was bowling better than....so I carry the rules section regarding cleaners, the list of approved cleaners and also a letter from the USBC which states that players can use approved cleaners on their towels in between shots.



If you are spraying and wiping between every shot, maybe they are upset at how long it takes you to bowl... Just sayin  ;D
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: ValentinoBowling on December 03, 2014, 04:06:24 PM
I use our cleaner, Remedy RX, on every strike shot, I spray it into a towel and wipe. I got hassled by a group of people I was bowling better than....so I carry the rules section regarding cleaners, the list of approved cleaners and also a letter from the USBC which states that players can use approved cleaners on their towels in between shots.



If you are spraying and wiping between every shot, maybe they are upset at how long it takes you to bowl... Just sayin  ;D

I spray it into the towel before I get up from the chair. I wipe, set and deliver faster than most people move to aim their feet. I think every league has THAT ONE GUY...who is on the approach for two minutes...and I am not that guy. :-)
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: xrayjay on December 03, 2014, 04:10:33 PM
I tried this morning to find those rules on the USBC website. But with now success or time. I want to carry it with me just in case ppl start trip'n...

Milo, I don't think he takes 25-30 seconds like this guy at leagues. We still haven't bowled his team, but when we do, I'll break out my kindle and a blanket  haha

I use our cleaner, Remedy RX, on every strike shot, I spray it into a towel and wipe. I got hassled by a group of people I was bowling better than....so I carry the rules section regarding cleaners, the list of approved cleaners and also a letter from the USBC which states that players can use approved cleaners on their towels in between shots.



If you are spraying and wiping between every shot, maybe they are upset at how long it takes you to bowl... Just sayin  ;D
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: milorafferty on December 03, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
I tried this morning to find those rules on the USBC website. But with now success or time. I want to carry it with me just in case ppl start trip'n...

Milo, I don't think he takes 25-30 seconds like this guy at leagues. We still haven't bowled his team, but when we do, I'll break out my kindle and a blanket  haha

I use our cleaner, Remedy RX, on every strike shot, I spray it into a towel and wipe. I got hassled by a group of people I was bowling better than....so I carry the rules section regarding cleaners, the list of approved cleaners and also a letter from the USBC which states that players can use approved cleaners on their towels in between shots.



If you are spraying and wiping between every shot, maybe they are upset at how long it takes you to bowl... Just sayin  ;D

Yea, I had a doubles partner last year that took 30-45 seconds every time. And that was after he got set up on the approach. I finally had to show him the math, but he still did it anyway. He does it this year again, but he ain't my partner anymore.
Title: Re: using ball cleaners....
Post by: spmcgivern on December 04, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
I tried this morning to find those rules on the USBC website. But with now success or time. I want to carry it with me just in case ppl start trip'n...

Milo, I don't think he takes 25-30 seconds like this guy at leagues. We still haven't bowled his team, but when we do, I'll break out my kindle and a blanket  haha



Rule 18 specifies the rules about bowling balls and altering surfaces.  In the commonly asked question portion (18/1) they detail the rule about cleaners.