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J_w73

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V2 CORE
« on: February 02, 2010, 03:31:41 AM »
I stepped out of bowling for a while and I think it was when Ebonite released their version of balls with the V2 core. I have heard great things about this core.  What makes this core so special?  Why do people rave about it?
Was it marketed as an asymmetrical ?
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 11:44:52 AM »
It was (IMHO) a combo of the core and cover that made the V2 sanded a GREAT ball..

They've used the same cover with different core and also the same core with different covers with various levels of success, but never close to the orginal..


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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 11:59:27 AM »
Wasn't there a ball that recently came out with the V2 Core ?
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 12:09:46 PM »
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Wasn''t there a ball that recently came out with the V2 Core ?
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 03:21:07 PM »
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 03:27:06 PM »
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I have the Playmaker..no doubt..a great ball..

BUT, there's no ball that I've owned or current have that has the same continous motion off the breakpoint that my V2 Sanded has. The ball will just continue to hook all the waht through the pocket
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 04:38:29 PM »
looks like the ball is listed a symmetrical ball , atleast from the drill sheets I saw.. wouldn't that big V void give it some assymetrical properties..

do you know if the open V part of the core was marked on the ball ??
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 04:51:39 PM »
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looks like the ball is listed a symmetrical ball , atleast from the drill sheets I saw.. wouldn't that big V void give it some assymetrical properties..

do you know if the open V part of the core was marked on the ball ??
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 As far as I remember, the V2 core had no void. It was simply a sperical shape with two nuggets inside, the lower one being the larger of the two, arranged in such a way as to make the core symmetric and have a very low RG rating.

 Nothing supernatural about it, just a really great matchup of core and cover that was very versatile. I liked the Trimax cover, seems like it was the last one they had that had great performance AND longevity.
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J_w73

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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 05:03:21 PM »
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looks like the ball is listed a symmetrical ball , atleast from the drill sheets I saw.. wouldn''t that big V void give it some assymetrical properties..

do you know if the open V part of the core was marked on the ball ??
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 As far as I remember, the V2 core had no void. It was simply a sperical shape with two nuggets inside, the lower one being the larger of the two, arranged in such a way as to make the core symmetric and have a very low RG rating.

 Nothing supernatural about it, just a really great matchup of core and cover that was very versatile. I liked the Trimax cover, seems like it was the last one they had that had great performance AND longevity.
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so that V opening in the core isnt really there.. that is just to show the inner flip block?

pic here
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/bowlersdream_2087_83076086

http://ebonite.com/images/uploads/resources/shelf_talkers/st_pin_slasher.pdf
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2010, 05:03:39 PM »
I loved trimax too.
Too bad that Ebonite doesn't produce any bowling balls with that cover anymore.
I think the last one was the black ice...
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2010, 05:09:35 PM »
The V2 core no longer meets USBC RG specs but current equipment has been granfathered in. Unless they tweek it to raise the RG to 2.48 I doubt you will see it in future productions.
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2010, 06:04:16 PM »
the min requirement is 2.43 according to USBC ... the cores in the pinslasher and gamebreaker are over that limit.. not sure if they tweeked them from the original V2 core.
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2010, 06:12:32 PM »
Jw,

My opinion:
I haven't read all the replies, but it's never the core. It's always the core/coverstock matchup.

The V2 was a great ball. The V2 particle was a great ball but the cover absorbed oil and died in 30 games or less.

The V2 core with the One coverstock (The Gamebreaker) was good, sometimes very good, but again the coverstock was a super-absorber, so it died, really lost a serious amount of performance, very quickly, if it was not cared for very well. The Pin Slasher was even more absorptive.  

Now if they put their XL1200 coverstock on the V2 Core, then they'd have something memorable.
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2010, 06:29:42 PM »
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so that V opening in the core isnt really there.. that is just to show the inner flip block?

pic here
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/bowlersdream_2087_83076086

http://ebonite.com/images/uploads/resources/shelf_talkers/st_pin_slasher.pdf
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 Correct. Just extend that core to complete the sperical shape encompassing the interior pucks and you have it.
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Re: V2 CORE
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2010, 07:09:46 PM »
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the min requirement is 2.43 according to USBC ... the cores in the pinslasher and gamebreaker are over that limit.. not sure if they tweeked them from the original V2 core.



It is my understanding that the new low RG limit is 2.48 for USBC specs which led to the Pin Slasher and Playmaker being discontinued.
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