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Title: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: TJFreaky24 on November 23, 2004, 01:27:41 AM
Alright, our city tournament is coming up in a few weeks. It has Singles, Doubles, and a Team event. I grabbed my team and doubles partner quickly and signed up. When it came to the singles event I was hesitant. I was kind of on the fence about it. I really wanted to bowl, however something was holding me back. The tournament uses last years book average. I averaged an unhealthy 150 last season. After a bit of coaching and a lot of practice, I'm up to a healthier 171 average. So, I'm up 21 pins from last season. The problem is....I would be bowling in a grouping with bowlers of a 126-150 average range. Now, granted I'm sure there may be some people in the same situation who might go out, to contend with...but it's somewhat unlikely. The competition would likely be below my level (I'm not trying to sound cocky...just being honest.) I inquired about moving up into the bracket for which I would qualify with this years average but was told this was not allowed. It kind of put me between a rock and a hard place. Most people would just be happy to go bowl in that grouping and just take the trophey. I on the other hand chose not to bowl singles for respect of myself and others. Not to mention I saved a whole 6.50. What do you guys think? Would you have done the same?
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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: MichiganBowling on November 23, 2004, 09:38:03 AM
I have done the same.  I think if more people did more honest things like that, the world would be a better place.  Shame on your city tournament for disallowing you to bowl in a higher bracket.  Bowling used to be a sport where everybody strived to be the big dog, and your association has perpetuated another bad practice of not allowing you to compete against better bowlers.  This is the kind of story that needs to be shared with others in the bowling industry to show how bass ackwards some of these local associations are.

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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: scotts33 on November 23, 2004, 09:41:02 AM
So, it's scratch in your average bracket?
Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: TJFreaky24 on November 23, 2004, 09:41:43 AM
I'm YABA. Thanks for the support.
It's a handicap tourny, however i'm still gonna get a good amount of pins myself (around 30 A game)
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Edited on 11/23/2004 10:41 AM
Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: bowler257628 on November 23, 2004, 09:43:45 AM
TJ, how do you know you would beat all those kids with those HIGH handicaps? They could bowl a high game and with handicap crush you, or you could have a bad set, you never know..
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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: TJFreaky24 on November 23, 2004, 09:47:57 AM
I'm not saying I couldn't lose. At no point did I say I couldn't. I do feel however, it gives me an unfair advantage out there. Do you disagree?
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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: bowler257628 on November 23, 2004, 09:49:24 AM
yes, I do.. whats handicap based on? 210? if so that gives the 130 average bowlers ALOT of cap..
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I never dreamed it would be me, My name for all eternity, Recorded here at this hallowed place Alas, my name, no more my face. "In the line of duty," I hear them say: My family now the price to pay. My folded flag stained with their tears; We only had those few short years. The badge no longer on my chest, I sleep now in eternal rest. My sword I pass to those behind, And pray they keep this thought in mind. I never dreamed it would be me, And with heavy heart and bended knee, I ask for all here from the past: Dear God, let my name be the last.
Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: TJFreaky24 on November 23, 2004, 10:01:15 AM
Based on 180. So The 130 Bowlers get 20 pins more than I would.
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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: bowler257628 on November 23, 2004, 10:09:03 AM
oh.. I thought all YABA tournaments were based on 210 lol.. I see pro's and Con's to it.. Maybe you did the right thing.
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I never dreamed it would be me, My name for all eternity, Recorded here at this hallowed place Alas, my name, no more my face. "In the line of duty," I hear them say: My family now the price to pay. My folded flag stained with their tears; We only had those few short years. The badge no longer on my chest, I sleep now in eternal rest. My sword I pass to those behind, And pray they keep this thought in mind. I never dreamed it would be me, And with heavy heart and bended knee, I ask for all here from the past: Dear God, let my name be the last.
Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: scotts33 on November 23, 2004, 10:14:08 AM
TJ--I guess, I don't get it if it's a hdcp. City tourney then most YABA local associations would have 10-15 pin rules in their tourney rules.  

I'd check on that.  make sure you don't have 10 pin or 15 pin rule in effect.

Scott
Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: TJFreaky24 on November 23, 2004, 10:20:15 AM
Bones-I would have had a similar problem if this were an issue in team or doubles. My team is in the top flight, and my doubles partner carried a high enough average to put us into the top flight as well. My average in those competitions mean little. Otherwise, if it placed us in a lower flight, then I agree still it gives us an advantage.

Scotts-I knew about the 10-15  pin rule and checked into that long before posting. I was told that for City tourny there is no such stipulation. I'll check into it again just to be sure.


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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: TJFreaky24 on November 23, 2004, 03:44:54 PM
Bones, I don't believe there is an all-event award, but I will check into this further. If so, you may have just swayed me
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Title: Re: Was I wrong not to enter?
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on November 23, 2004, 05:48:51 PM
As long as there wasn't a ten-pin rule, there's no reason you shouldn't have bowled.  It's not YOUR fault your city tournament committee chose not to use that rule for the tournament.
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