Author Topic: COVER STOCK (Read 1494 times)

BOWL119 · « **on:** November 05, 2006, 09:01:07 AM »

Ok, this may have been discussed already, but was talking with a friend about it and thought I would post it and see what all of you thought.

Say you have a heavy oil ball that you really like. We will use the Strike Zone for this discussion. This ball is already a great heavy oil ball, but could you buy 3 of them and add polish to the rest of them for different lane conditions? For example your arsenal would be like this:

HEAVY OIL: STRIKE ZONE OOB
MEDIUM OIL: LIGHT POLISH
LIGHT OIL: HEAVY POLISH

Would this work or is does this just sound good in my head?

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T.J.

BOWLING IS FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SCORE. BUT A 300 IS ALWAYS NICE.

STRIKE ZONE & PYRO. STAND 15 AND THROW 10 OUT TO 5 AND SMASH THE POCKET. AT LEAST THAT IS THE PLAN OF THE NIGHT...

BOWL119 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 05, 2006, 05:18:37 PM »

Well, definitely not a pro, so that leaves me out. But I am nto looking to do this, I was just using the SZ for an example. Basically, is there a ball out there that you can do this with. Change to coverstock and drill it differently...
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T.J.

BOWLING IS FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SCORE. BUT A 300 IS ALWAYS NICE.

STRIKE ZONE & PYRO. STAND 15 AND THROW 10 OUT TO 5 AND SMASH THE POCKET. AT LEAST THAT IS THE PLAN OF THE NIGHT...

a_ak57 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 05, 2006, 05:21:22 PM »

Well, there *could* be a ball to make a 3 ball arsenal from (cue Chitown) but unless you already know you will love that ball to death, there isn't really any advantage to doing so. I have yet to see a ball that makes me say "WOW, I don't want to buy anything else, it will feel inferior to this ball!" so I stick to making arsenals out of different stuff. Of course, if you found a ball that *would* be versatile enough and you *would* love it to death, then it might be an advantage since you'd have a better time at guessing how each ball will react should you make a ball change or something (easier to compare the same ball with different surfaces/drillings than two balls with different covers/core AND different surfaces/drillings).

I know that really didn't help, but just be wary. Don't dive into this. Listen to suggestions people will say, and buy one ball. Don't just jump in and get 3 and try it off the bat. Good luck with whatever you do.
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- Andy

Edited on 11/5/2006 6:15 PM

charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** November 05, 2006, 05:54:46 PM »

While everybody loves this theory, 3 preps and/or drillings on one ball to make arsenal, in stone-cold reality, there are maybe 2 or 3 balls that you could use that will do this for you. Best to not even play with this theory unless you have time and money to waste.

Many balls will cover 2 of the 3 basic conditions, via drills and surface preparations.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

BOWL119 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 05, 2006, 06:29:07 PM »

I had better make this point clear now. I was not looking to do this, but a friend and I were talking and this came up. I just used the SZ as an example for the post.

But who knows, Maybe when the SZ gets replaced and the price goes down, I will pick up 3 of them and try it to see how it works.
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T.J.

BOWLING IS FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SCORE. BUT A 300 IS ALWAYS NICE.

STRIKE ZONE & PYRO. STAND 15 AND THROW 10 OUT TO 5 AND SMASH THE POCKET. AT LEAST THAT IS THE PLAN OF THE NIGHT...

shelley · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2006, 07:54:37 PM »

Clint Daley did that with Rule GP2s a year or so ago, then the Robo Rule last year. Had arsenals of about 10 of them. Different layouts and cover preps allowed him to cover pretty much every condition.

SH

leftehh- LG · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2006, 08:16:37 PM »

Well for light oil, I dont know but But with three different surfaces you basically have 3 diff balls.
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Bowl to Win!

leftehh- LG · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2006, 08:18:00 PM »

quote:
While everybody loves this theory, 3 preps and/or drillings on one ball to make arsenal, in stone-cold reality, there are maybe 2 or 3 balls that you could use that will do this for you. Best to not even play with this theory unless you have time and money to waste.

Many balls will cover 2 of the 3 basic conditions, via drills and surface preparations.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Is one of them the vortex 2 ?

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Bowl to Win!

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** November 07, 2006, 03:10:08 AM »

quote:
quote:
While everybody loves this theory, 3 preps and/or drillings on one ball to make arsenal, in stone-cold reality, there are maybe 2 or 3 balls that you could use that will do this for you. Best to not even play with this theory unless you have time and money to waste.

Many balls will cover 2 of the 3 basic conditions, via drills and surface preparations.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Is one of them the vortex 2 ?
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Bowl to Win!

Not in my opinion.

Many people think this about many balls, but in truth,in reality, the light oil they're thinking of and maybe using it for is just the next transition from the medium or medium+ oil pattern in their house shot. While 3 variations of a great ball such as the V2 Sanded, can cover medium-heavy, medium and the next transition down from the house shot's medium oil, it cannot properly cover true Medium-light to medium-hevay oil, in my opinion.

My belief is you can do this with some of the mass bias/PSA/asymmetric balls solely because placing the MB on the track side of grip reduces the backend to such a large degree, much more so than symmetric cores.

So if you have a truly flexible coverstock and a mass bias/PSA core, then you have a greater potential for making a partial 3 ball arsenal from one base ball, with a combination of drills and surface preparations.

BUT why bother, unless you have a fixation on this idea. There are so many more balls available for so many purposes and ball paths from most manufacturers, that drilling one ball 2 different ways (& possibly with 2 different surfaces) for 2 purposes is as far as I can stretch it, from a practicality point of view.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Edited on 11/7/2006 4:08 AM

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #9 on:** November 07, 2006, 03:28:50 AM »

quote:
While everybody loves this theory, 3 preps and/or drillings on one ball to make arsenal, in stone-cold reality, there are maybe 2 or 3 balls that you could use that will do this for you. Best to not even play with this theory unless you have time and money to waste.

Many balls will cover 2 of the 3 basic conditions, via drills and surface preparations.

That's my impression, too. The ball/coverstock that is able to handle anything from light to oily shots is not knwon to me so far. You will surely get a SZ with polish and a lengthy drilling to cover medium conditions, but the coverstock is too aggressive to be suitable for anything else below. On the other side, light oil balls simple do not have enough grip to handle long oil, even when sanded and drilled for heavy, early roll. You CAN set up a ball this way, but it is IMHO nonsense since you try to make a ball do what it was not designed for. Waste of money and time.
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