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Boos

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Strongest Hammer Ball
« on: October 23, 2009, 05:17:12 AM »
What is the strongest Hammer ball for backend reaction?
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 01:59:09 PM »
The Hammer ball with the strongest backend reaction is definitely the Burn.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 02:16:36 PM »
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The Hammer ball with the strongest backend reaction is definitely the Burn.
I would put a Black Widow Pearl with a small pin buffer up against a Burn.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 02:32:13 PM »
Dude.  Seriously.  How many threads are you going to start  asking pretty much the same question over and over?
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 02:32:25 PM »
It is going to depend on what kind of oil is up front and how much/clean the backends are but....

I would say one of the No Mercy balls. (IF DRILLED CORRECTLY)

The original was strong in oil and still had a booming backend..

The beat''''n a little less in oil and a bigger backend..

I''''m using a whup''''n and it is a monster of a ball.. the way its drilled its not the most agressive ball in oil but a perfect combo of hook and backend.. and I have it drilled 5 in pin to pap with a low pin ... so there is plenty of room to make it stronger in oil or more angular on the backend..

another more current available ball would be one of the sauces(friend has),the sting(don''''t know much about it)...or the bite(friend has this), widow pearl is another awesome ball with  ton of backend.. Mine is drilled skid flip.. alittle too long for anything heavy and a little over under though without a cover adjustment.....

Here is some data from the BTM spreadsheet sorted by backend..

Manufacturer   Ball      Torque   Length   Back End   Hook
Hammer   No Mercy Beat''''n        7.5   13.5   17.5       54
Hammer   No Mercy        7.0   13.0   17.5       53
Hammer   Black Widow Sting    7.0   11.5   17.0       53
Hammer   Black Widow Bite     6.5   11.0   16.5       52
Hammer   Hot Sauce Pearl        7.0   15.5   16.5       48
Hammer   Black Widow Pearl    7.0   16.0   16.5       48
Hammer   Big Rig Diesel        7.0   14.0   16.5       48
Hammer   The Real Deal        6.5   11.0   16.0       53
Hammer   The Sauce        6.5   10.0   16.0       53
Hammer   Jigsaw                6.5        11.5   16.0       52
Hammer   Hawg Zilla        7.0   11.5   16.0       52
Hammer   Black Widow        6.5   12.5   16.0       50
Hammer   Road Hawg        7.0   13.0   16.0       50
Hammer   Big Deal        7.0   13.0   16.0       49
Hammer   Black Widow Venom    6.5   16.5   16.0       47
Hammer   Raw Hammer Acid        6.0   13.0   15.5       48
Hammer   Raw Hammer Burn        6.5   15.0   15.5       47
Hammer   Raw Hammer Psycho    6.5   16.0   15.5       46

sorry about the formatting..

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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 02:34:17 PM »
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The Hammer ball with the strongest backend reaction is definitely the Burn.
I would put a Black Widow Pearl with a small pin buffer up against a Burn.
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agree.. +1
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2009, 02:38:26 PM »
My brother has a Burn and it is very strong on the back end. I have a Jig Saw that is polished and drilled for length that is also very strong on the backends.

The Burn is more skid snap. The saw even with how I have it drilled and polished hooks sooner then the burn but still keeps up on the back end.

For the price, the Burn is hard to beat.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2009, 03:57:15 PM »
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My brother has a Burn and it is very strong on the back end. I have a Jig Saw that is polished and drilled for length that is also very strong on the backends.

Ok so the burn is more than a Venom right?
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Boos

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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2009, 04:02:14 PM »
I want to add 1 thing. I do NOT throw the Ball fast. So is a Venom going to be too much? Burn?
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2009, 07:58:25 PM »
There is no way for us to tell you if a Venom will burn up without seeing how you throw the ball, knowing the surface of the lane, what the shot is or where you like to throw it.  

Even with a slower speed a Venom could be right depending upon the variables above (generalized ofcourse)...but a Burn would get more length, which is typically a good thing for a bowler with slower ball speed.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2009, 10:47:27 PM »
I will also agree with the Black Widow Pearl being the biggest back end ball from Hammer, I have not thrown the Burn but ive seen many thrown, it has a good back end motion but nothing like the BWP.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 11:45:02 AM »
By far does the Burn have the biggest backend reaction.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 11:48:22 AM »
From what i've seen its the Burn hands down. Mine and most others had a very smooth reacting Widow Pearl, the Burn on the other hand is just a beast.
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2009, 02:01:22 PM »
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From what i've seen its the Burn hands down. Mine and most others had a very smooth reacting Widow Pearl, the Burn on the other hand is just a beast.
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my BWP is 5 1/2 pin to pap with the pin above the bridge with a 60 deg mb..
when that ball was brand new it was super sick on the backend..

I need to check out the burn if what you are saying is true..

is the burn super angular and quick(causing possible over under/bad carry) .. or big and continuous ???
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Re: Strongest Hammer Ball
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2009, 04:50:37 PM »
I don't know.. checking out a bunch of vids on utube...
don't see any of the burn doing this..

starting from that deep , covering boards to the outside and still getting back to the pocket with power...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZs2M130wWA

and this wasn't even drilled for max backend..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSmnzy_XQo

and check out the whupn at 4000 abralon 1 minute in..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnbhxfruFNU


even the venom looks pretty big on the backend and covers boards at the same time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL-DuiepceU



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