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FDGunner01

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What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« on: November 19, 2014, 12:10:44 PM »
Guys,

I could use a little help because lately I have noticed, that I tend to lose Revs on my ball as I try to increase my ball speed. Normal ball speed in 15.5-16.0 and I would say around average amount of Revs.

What causes this? Is there anything I can do to fix this? or do I just adjust my arsenal to make up for this.

 

charlest

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2014, 12:42:43 PM »
That's odd. When I put more speed on the ball, I, and I think most bowlers, tend to rev the ball more. That makes me suspect you're not using your normal release when you throw it harder, maybe not keeping the hand behind the ball, or your wrist in the same position or your thumb in the normal position for a quick release.

Don't forget: with more speed your ball is not going to hook as much. I hope you're not interpreting that as meaning you put less revs on it.
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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2014, 01:48:06 PM »
I add revs (not that much) when i speed up, so I'm with Charlest on this one.....

Take a video and measure your revrate.
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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 02:21:50 PM »
As always hard to say without a video.  You can create more ball speed and less revs and less ball speed and more revs.  If you are arming or muscling the ball to much you may not be getting a good wrist snap at the bottom of the swing. Think of a bullwhip. If you swing it really hard with only our arm and a firm wrist no snap. If you swing you arm with a relaxed wrist and hit the end big snap.

LuckyLefty

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 02:32:22 PM »
As stated above:

Somehow you are missing the timing with feet and arm or hanging slightly in the thumbhole with your method of increasing speed.

I know with me and many others often when I get my timing really going and confident with my line and want to be firm is when my revs often reach MY peak.

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 02:50:00 PM »

There is a misconception out there that revs seem to be the most important thing.  "Manufacturing revs" can lead to some pretty bad habits and/or injuries. 

Start with your footwork, arm swing, and other mechanics and make sure your timing is good.  If your mechanics are good then the (proper) revs will fall into place.  Realize that you will have a rev rate "range" that will be natural for you and your style. 

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 03:03:03 PM »
Sometimes extra speed = extra squeezing.

LuckyLefty

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2014, 07:27:41 PM »
I agree with Lane Carter's comments.  I do feel that many of the players I see with low revs have hanging issues, due to wrong pitches, spans, or  to wrong bevel, or knuckling.

Get the fit right, get  timing right and nearly everyone with a fingertip grip will have plenty of hook and revs and hopefully speed!

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2014, 08:24:20 PM »
I would not be surprised to see you muscling the ball a great deal when you try to speed up your release. Your body is so focused on holding on to the ball through the swing that you have no possibility of rotating properly at the bottom of the release.

I had this same problem and the more I freed up my swing the more I could increase speed AND still provide the proper rotation at the bottom of the swing for maximum revolutions.

Video would still show more info.

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2014, 08:47:08 PM »
I think there was a trade off between speed and revs in the old style release where we hit up on the ball to get revs.  The first cup wristers increased revs, at the expense of speed.  When the first reactive balls came out the added friction put more of a premium on speed. Many of us learned that the so called less is more release where we rev it from the back of the ball at the bottom of the swing both increases revs and ball speed. 

If you are seeing a trade off, I suspect you are lifting and releasing slightly on the upswing. When you do this gravity becomes the enemy and does not allow a strong release and a lot of ball speed unless you are abnormally strong. 

FDGunner01

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Re: What causes me to lose revs as i increase my speed
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 10:56:07 AM »
Thanks for all of the reply's... after working on this last night after league and throwing the ball very well.. it appears to me that I am not staying behind the ball through my swing and or turning my hand alittle early... more of a release issue and maybe a little bit with timing.. but I think I figured it out... Practice never hurt anyone

thanks to everyone that gave some insite