Author Topic: What condition is this?? (Read 1657 times)

Supermo · « **on:** March 09, 2005, 07:07:45 PM »

Going to be bowling on a 40ft flat oil in our UK Nationals on wood.
Scores from the 1st week were really bad. do you bowl on this over here and what is it like.Better still what balls should i be using.....helpppp...

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:20:09 AM »

Hi Supermo,
I am regularly playing on a 40' sports pattern with slick Brusnwick synth surface. I do not know your specs, but from my experiences on this type of oil pattern I'd suggest either going straight to the pocket (I only habve about 250 RPM, 15mph speed) with a ball that carries well (polished reactive - forget about the hook when it makes your shot unperdictable on this slick stuff!) with good speed, or try a medium load particle ball on an inside line, playing 3rd arrow with your normal shot and adapt when lanes start to break down and a track has been built up, and stick with this ball, keeping it in the oil through a further move inside, if necessary, to keep the ball in the pocket.

Hope this helps?
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Centers · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:27:21 AM »

I call it a long pisser!

CharlieBrown · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:33:00 AM »

Flat oil at the National? Are you sure? That'd be a first?!?

I bowled at the Nationals last year at the Airport, and the year before at Nottingham, and the scoring pace was quite high (well....highish), and the oil patterns were a million miles away from flat.

*just seen the week 1 results on BTBA website*

WOW, you are right, 613 the highest for Singles Division A, 377 the lowest?!? You've gotta be kidding!!! The condition must be a lot tougher this year!!! Damn, I wish I was bowling this year!

Would love to see the graph for the oil pattern.

Good luck this weekend Supermo!!!
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Supermo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:42:48 AM »

Thanks Dizzy
On Monday we bowled on lanes that had been resufaced 2 weeks before (wood) they put down guardian on the headers and hadn't cleaned them off(usually leave it 15days.My normal shot was useless so i had a long think after the first game(a struggling 170). I moved wide outside 3rd board in moved my hand to the side played a spinning type of shot that mixed as first game i left 2-8-10s with the ball not driving in..finished with a 190-234...i think i bowl a similar shot to you bout 250revs 16mph with a smooth arc..with two red Fuzes polished

Supermo · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:46:47 AM »

Hi Charlie brown
Bowling the last weekend with Yorshire..they need a scouser lol
Think we will get a higher standard of bowlers there these last two weeks. A few of our good bowlers from the North are playing this weekend so i'll have more info.

Supermo · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:49:15 AM »

Charlie
Just heard they have sent the graph to NASA

waiting on results...lol

CharlieBrown · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:51:21 AM »

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resufaced 2 weeks before (wood) they put down guardian on the headers and hadn't cleaned them off(usually leave it 15days.

Well it's normal practice not to use any lane cleaners after resurfacing/guardian for 10 - 14ish days, so if you bowl this weekend or next weekend, I assume the scoring pace will go up!

If the mechanics know what they are doing, Guardian front/wood backend is probably my favorite surface!!!

Good bowling!
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CharlieBrown · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2005, 03:53:21 AM »

Yeah, all the good bowlers don't usually turn up til the final week, so the scoring pace will sure go up!!!

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Supermo · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2005, 05:07:09 AM »

Charlie
This is the 51st and last week of this league comin up ive led from the first week...get a Â£1000 if i win..should do

Supermo · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2005, 05:28:30 AM »

Maughany
Well i need all the info on whats what down there...but should i be askin a leftie you lot always have the best of it...lol

Scolai · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2005, 06:37:31 AM »

Sorry to break up the conversation, but I'm wondering why a 40' flat pattern doesn't have a strong backend. From what I'm reading, the ball is just skidding to the pocket?

I just finished a 4-week stretch on 45' flat sport. I averaged about 176 on it and we only had 15 feet of back end. Anything outside of 15 never even wiggled. I had to play the lane at about 4th-5th arrow with slow speed in order to get the ball to the pocket. Even then there were large numbers of weak/flat corners.

I'm just not seeing how 40' would be so unwilling to yield a decent backend reaction unless the oil is just globbed on the lanes.
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CharlieBrown · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2005, 07:31:59 AM »

quote:
Sorry to break up the conversation, but I'm wondering why a 40' flat pattern doesn't have a strong backend. From what I'm reading, the ball is just skidding to the pocket?

Pin-nut,

From what Supermo said, it seems that the lanes have just been resurfaced.

The usual procedure after resurfacing wood lanes, is not to use lane cleaner for 10-14 days, i.e. only lane condictioner (oil) is applied, and the backend is not stripped/cleaned. Hence no backend movement.

After two weeks period, lanes can then be dressed as normal, so the 'flat pattern' should play like normal flat pattern.
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Scolai · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2005, 08:03:52 AM »

quote:
quote:
Sorry to break up the conversation, but I'm wondering why a 40' flat pattern doesn't have a strong backend. From what I'm reading, the ball is just skidding to the pocket?

Pin-nut,

From what Supermo said, it seems that the lanes have just been resurfaced.

The usual procedure after resurfacing wood lanes, is not to use lane cleaner for 10-14 days, i.e. only lane condictioner (oil) is applied, and the backend is not stripped/cleaned. Hence no backend movement.

After two weeks period, lanes can then be dressed as normal, so the 'flat pattern' should play like normal flat pattern.
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The Angry Bowler

Ah yes. Sorry I didn't catch that in my first reading of the thread. I must have been trying to concentrate before the caffeine really took effect.

Carry on, then!
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pin-chaser · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2005, 08:04:38 AM »

Bones... I agree with you.

But knowing the pattern is flat (and not knowing how thick), I would not use balls that were layed out aggressive. I would simply take label layouts with three shells and to surfaces each (6 balls).

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