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i_like_chicken

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What do you consider a flood
« on: July 27, 2006, 04:52:56 PM »
I want to know what everone here thinks is a flood. Ive been on some longer patters that are heavier than im used to, such as the 44 foot regional pattern. The strongest ball i own is my total annihilation and ive never had a problem on any volume/length of oil. So could somebody give me an example of what they consider a "flood".

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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2006, 12:59:56 AM »
I've only bowled on one...and I couldn't even tell you the length of the oil, but it was flat gutter to gutter and far down the lane.  I sucked.  Being left handed...definately not an advantage on a pattern like that.

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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2006, 01:23:22 AM »
When you are rolling the biggest hooking thing you have, it doesnt hook very much at all, and the oil rings on the ball, when it comes back from the ball return, appear to be fairly thick.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2006, 02:07:42 AM »
Gold Coast's house shot in Las Vegas, NV.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2006, 02:10:18 AM »
I only encountered a "real" flood twice: one was in a new bowling alley where they had problems with the oil machine program (and the new AnvilLane surface was slick, too), and one deliberate flood as a tournament pattern for Germany' premier division bowling event. They put out this slick and soupy mess as a surprise for the "guests" in the upcoming weekend, and already used it for training the week before to be prepared - that's when I ran into it.

In both cases, nothing moved or worked properly, so I decided to use a polished reactive and go straight for the pocket.

Unfortunatley I cannot tell how much or how long the oil had been in both cases (in the initial one propbaly the lanemen did not know either). It was gutter to gutter with no dry outside boards, and very long. More than 40' and with a long buffer zone.

I have also witnessed a quite "normal" pattern, but with long oil tongues (50' long!) at each gutter, so that any ball swung out would slip and either fall into the gutter or hit the 6-10 pocket for a righty - also as a tournament pattern and training preparation


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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2006, 11:32:29 AM »
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Gold Coast's house shot in Las Vegas, NV.


The Orleans' lanes were alot more flooded than Gold Coasts.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2006, 11:42:52 AM »
A flood: in 2002 we had a little house scratch tournament.  The laneman put out a "pattern" I've  never seen before or since.  Oiled to over 45 feet, heavy.  So heavy that if you didn't wipe your ball before picking it up it would slip thru your hands - really, I ain't making this up.  There was no visible oil ring on the ball - the ball was covered in oil.  Other than this I don't think I've ever bowled on something that I would consider truly heavy oil.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2006, 11:49:42 AM »
There is no such thing. Alot of bowlers think that any oil outside of 10 constitutes a flood. I agree with TwoHand, if you can't get your ball to hook then its a flood for you despit what anyone else thinks.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2006, 11:52:56 AM »
Gazoo, trust me, what I described was a flood.  But, I was able to play direct with a Wrath and did quite well.  But when the oil drips off the ball, it's a flood.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2006, 12:00:05 PM »
the way we wore our jeans and slacks in the 1960's.

Seriously, gutter to gutter long oil.  For right handers there is generally only one route to the pocket.  Deep in the track and point the ball, and pray for carry and that the track to dye out and dry out.  Another more kindly flood is long oil gutter to gutter with a little backend to it - then you can play from the gutter and point. Luckily, very few establishments will discourage your scores with the "flood".  Either poor understanding of Lane conditioning or Lane conditioning machine; OR the old ABC scared the crap out of them for illegal conditions and over compensated to discourage any sort of scores.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2006, 12:16:17 PM »
Rags,
I agree with you on situation you presented. Personally, if I saw a rooster tail coming up behind the ball, I would consider myself bowling on a flood!
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2006, 12:24:09 PM »
I would say a flood would vary from person to person.  As far as the definition of "flood," I would agree that it is when you are unable to get reaction from your strongest equipment, providing you made an appropriate surface change.  

With that being said, I'm not sure I have ever bowled on a condition were I wasn't able to get some sort of reaction from a ball.  In the past 5 years, I have bowled twice on conditions where the lane machine wasn't functioning properly.  The first time, the new lane boy mistakenly filled the stripper tank with oil..  scotchbrited an SCB and shot 680's.  Second time was last season and there was a malfunction of lane machine..I was able to scotchbrite an xxxcel and play up the outside and shot in the 750's  


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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2006, 12:45:04 PM »
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I just bowled Gold Coast for our Vegas league this summer, and the lanes weren't even close to med-heavy. It was so walled up there, and the backends were really flying with a bunch of hold in the middle. Maybe the condition they have is different at various times.


You must have bowled on the high end. The low end of the house when they reoil is absolutely aweful sometimes.

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The Orleans' lanes were alot more flooded than Gold Coasts.


they put brand new lanes in a few months ago and now they aren't that flooded anymore.

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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2006, 07:10:47 PM »
Probably the onyl real flood I've encountered is when the oiling machine screwed up and not only did not strip, but pretty much oiled about 50 feet. At the time I was bowling without the thumb and had a box finished Rock On back up the entire lane.

The longest PBA Shark pattern was an eye opener too, but once I squared my shot up and got the right ball in my hand, it wasn't too bad.
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Re: What do you consider a flood
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2006, 07:18:40 PM »
A flood: When your Robo Rule and GP2 don't move more then an inch despite a relatively slow ball speed. Ran into this at the NM state tournement this year. Nothing was moving. Only thing that might have worked would have been a Visionary AMD Centaur Partical. Flood: Any lane condition upon which you can use successfully a Visionary AMD Centaru Partical.

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