Author Topic: What hooks more then a Cell? (Read 2090 times)

Jorge300 · « **on:** June 22, 2009, 07:27:38 AM »

I was asked this question recently when I was in a coaching session. Was throwing a Cell, hand sanded to 1000 Abralon, but with a few games on it so it wasn't looking super dull anymore. I was asked if I had anything that hooked more, which I didn't, but afterwards I was thinking of the question in the title. Any thoughts from the BR.com community?

P.S. I assume they meant overall hook, but not sure, as I said I thought about this after I had left the session and was downloading what was discussed and thinking about it in my mind.

P.P.S. Sorry for the add, just want to add, I bowl a few PBA regionals so can we limit this to PBA approved equipment. If I do get something, I want to be able to use it at Regionals, so this removes something like Visionary AMB Particle, which may have been one answer to this.
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revTrex · « **Reply #1 on:** June 22, 2009, 03:34:05 PM »

Just my opinion (clearly more hook than a Cell):

900G Bounty Hunter
AMF Mega Friction
Visionary Ogre Particle
Several MoRich balls, haha

Maybe more hook (drilling and person specific):

Storm Virtual Gravity
Roto Grip Rogue Cell

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BWB300 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 22, 2009, 04:47:16 PM »

The Seige would be a very good choice.
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taige690 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2009, 04:47:46 PM »

I have both the Gamebreaker and the Cell, I could not believe the difference between the two on the house shot I bowl at. The gamebreaker at 2000 grit (no polish) hooked more for me than the Cell at the same finish. I have to say I carried better with the Cell at 1000 grit compared to the Gamebreaker at that surface adjustment, but the Gamebreaker was not as consistant at the 1000 grit.

Mike Austin · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2009, 06:02:25 PM »

Virtual Gravity
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UpstateProShopChris · « **Reply #5 on:** June 22, 2009, 06:23:43 PM »

The Seige...if your looking for an earlier read maybe a Maxx Zone.
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ccrider · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2009, 08:42:02 PM »

You have to qualify your question to what type of lane condition your are bowling on. On a THS, my experience has been that there are too many balls to name that hook more then the cell. On a heavy oil shot, like the Southern Match shot at our house or the USBC pattern, the Cell will roll earlier and cover more boards then most balls, although you never see the turn left that you see with a say a Virtual Gravity on a THS off the dry.

Just my thoughts, based on my experience with the Cell.
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themagician · « **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2009, 09:07:46 PM »

Any Golf ball I hit with my driver.

Oh wait, thats not relevant, i'd say safe bets are Mega Friction, and Bounty Hunter. Other balls that can depending on how the backends are would be Virtual Gravity, Rouge Cell, Black Widow Sting. Sometimes a Cell will be weaker than the others due to it being so early on the lanes, and the more angular solids may outhook it but not on a consistent basis across all patterns.

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charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2009, 10:11:38 PM »

"What hooks more then a Cell?"

A Cell sanded to 4000 grit Abralon.

Are you sure you need more hook? or a better placed hook/breakpoint.
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NOTHUMB · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2009, 10:14:59 PM »

My Virtual Gravity drilled similarly, outhooks my Cell by a good 3 or 4 boards on both house shots and the Nationals pattern.
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clt2244 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2009, 12:38:39 AM »

the mega friction is hands down the most aggressive ball out there currently
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2009, 07:35:12 AM »

Yeah, I really hate the discussion of "Ball X hooks more than Ball Y" and so forth. You can certainly discuss what balls can handle more oil, and what balls have more hook "potential," but it doesn't necessarily play out in the real world because of the ever-changing combination of oil and friction. My Cell is a much stronger ball than my Spit Fire, but I cover more boards with my Spit Fire when there's anything resembling dry boards out there, since the Cell will roll far too early and burn up. However, on soupy conditions, the Cell will still pick up a hard roll and hook a good bit while the Spit Fire will go straight for 59 feet. For me on a house shot, a sanded pearl will almost always hook more than anything solid simply because it doesn't burn up as quickly when it gets into the dry area of the lane. Or even on the Scorpion pattern after a game or two, I can move inside and swing 15 to 8 with a sanded Gravity Shift while my Cell burns up at my feet.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2009, 07:53:07 AM »

Very good answer from Dan. Sure, you can take a high differential ball, drill it leverage and sand the surface to 200 grit. It will definitively "hook" more. Imagine an Immortal Solid with such a setup. You might not be able to make it touch a pin at all unless you throw it 50' down the lane.

But IMHO, "overall" hook is a misleading concept to judge a ball. You need a ball that finally gets into a stable forward roll and that creates proper entry angle. How many boards it actually crosses is IMHO secondary, unless you have to compensate for something...
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CharlieBrown · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2009, 08:16:30 AM »

quote:
.... unless you have to compensate for something...

LMAO
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2009, 08:17:42 AM »

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.... unless you have to compensate for something...

LMAO
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