Post by: hjk246 on July 09, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
Post by: RyanRPS on July 10, 2008, 04:38:02 AM
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Post by: BigWillyStyle on July 10, 2008, 04:40:41 AM
Hope BrunsNick doesn't mind me posting this...but this is how it kinda started I suppose...
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Post by: hjk246 on July 10, 2008, 05:02:25 AM
Post by: BigWillyStyle on July 10, 2008, 05:36:48 AM
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does any one ball manufacturer have a rico drilling layout that can be printed up to be brought into my pro shop?
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Post by: Moon57 on July 10, 2008, 05:38:10 AM
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Post by: Lillen on July 10, 2008, 05:46:56 AM
Post by: shelley on July 10, 2008, 06:50:03 AM
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I don't know if any manufacturer has a Rico drilling in their drill sheets.
The recommended drilling for the Rising that magically changes everyone's PAP to 5" over and 1" up and is guaranteed to match up to everyone is basically a Rico drill.
Note that the PAP change and the matching up is only guaranteed for the Rising, especially when drilled by idiot drillers.
SH
Post by: RyanRPS on July 10, 2008, 07:49:26 AM
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Post by: pop_1 on July 10, 2008, 07:52:29 AM
Post by: shelley on July 10, 2008, 11:45:41 AM
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Shelly, not sure if i'm reading your post right, but are you agreeing with me that its a silly layout? lol
Ryan
I don't think it's silly by any stretch. I think the way it was presented as the "recommended" layout for the Rising was grossly oversimplified.
I don't have any Rico'd equipment, but from what I've read here, it's one of those fallback layouts that can get you out of a tight spot when nothing else is working.
SH
Post by: Dan Belcher on July 10, 2008, 12:38:19 PM
Post by: Marc822 on July 10, 2008, 12:50:14 PM
Post by: zone on July 10, 2008, 01:03:18 PM
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Post by: ccrider on July 10, 2008, 02:48:05 PM
Interesting post.
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Post by: hjk246 on July 11, 2008, 04:28:03 AM
Post by: CharlieBrown on July 11, 2008, 08:05:06 AM
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we used the "rico" drill back in the early 90's on Tour mostly for players that had low tracks, ( I used it for Butch Soper with great success )it helped them get the ball rolling sooner
That's exactly what my ball driller did for my balls when I used to have lower track!
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Post by: notsohotshot on July 11, 2008, 09:24:04 AM
Post by: Mike Austin on July 11, 2008, 02:02:16 PM
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if you mean that your ball gets too angular on the back, yes it will help. If your ball is already early, not a chance...
USUALLY, the lower the pin is in your grip, the slower the ball will change direction down the lane. Lower track players tend to store more energy and the ball will flip harder (if it flips at all). This can be harder to control. But also, as X Guy was saying, if you have a low track and your ball is revving up early, this isn't going to be good for length.
The reason this layout works different for different people is the relationship of the pin to PAP. For a low track bowler this could be a strong drill, pin 4" to PAP. It is 4 1/2 for me. For a higher track player, the pin could be 6" from PAP, which would be a longer/smoother drill. The lower pin could also cause the track to clip the finger holes for some.
My track is fairly low and have done a couple shorter pin balls with a Rico style drill, but I put the pin just above my thumb hole, everything else was the same. Scorchin' Inferno was early and smooth like this, hit great. Fired Up Diablo was much the same, just longer in and of itself, not as strong a ball as the Scorchin'. Worked very well on flat patterns, could get the ball to almost quit down lane, great for control. Did a Storm La Nina with the pin left of my thumb hole, mass bias at 3:00 to my grip center, no hole. With the box surface this ball was great on scorching middles and back ends. Great off the gutter. No hook down the lane, all about control. Many could use these types of layouts, but your mileage will vary.
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