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pnj1967

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What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« on: June 16, 2008, 12:56:58 AM »
Have seen this going on for a while.

Ball stated to be single drill, get pictures, and you can see thumb has been slugged, then redrilled.

Some say that is a single drill, because a slug was used, and ball was not plugged.


I guess if they had slugs for the fingers and they were used, you could keep putting in slugs3/4 times and still have a single drilled ball.

What is a single drilled ball to you????

If a slug is used, then drilled, is it a single drill, some people seem to "think", just because a slug was used, (and not actually having is fillied up with plug material) .

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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 09:13:31 AM »
Single drill for me is no plug work what so ever. Plugging the fingers or thumb and moving them, however so slightly, is still changing the ball from the original drill. When I sell a ball, I try and be as descriptive as possible, even if it is a air hole that was plugged.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 09:15:33 AM »
To me, single drilled means the original holes drilled into the ball. Any plugging work, be it finger, thumb or weight hole and then drilled over again would be a 2nd-drill item. That's just my 2 cents' worth, though.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 09:17:08 AM »
If a bit has touched the ball more than 3 times ( not counting a weight hole ) then it's not a single drill, IMO. Agree with Tracy, if ANY plug work at all, then it's not a single drill.

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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 10:31:50 AM »
Are you suggesting that if a person uses a thumb slug that it makes it a 2nd drill?  You drill the first hole, say 1 1/4" for the slug, then drill into the slug for the actual thumb hole.  

For most people, a thumb slug is preferred because you can remove the slug, put in a new one and change the span/pitch without having to do any plug work.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 10:34:01 AM »
This is a  example of what one person is saying is a single drill, and what I am asking/talking about.


http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk255/proshopguy/P1010245.jpg




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Are you suggesting that if a person uses a thumb slug that it makes it a 2nd drill?  You drill the first hole, say 1 1/4" for the slug, then drill into the slug for the actual thumb hole.  

For most people, a thumb slug is preferred because you can remove the slug, put in a new one and change the span/pitch without having to do any plug work.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 10:54:47 AM »
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You drill the first hole, say 1 1/4" for the slug, then drill into the slug for the actual thumb hole.


For me, the bit has touched the ball once. It drilled into the slug, not the ball, for the thumb.

Just to be clear.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 11:04:13 AM »
Yes, but what about when the plugging or slug is still showing, like in the picture?

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You drill the first hole, say 1 1/4" for the slug, then drill into the slug for the actual thumb hole.


For me, the bit has touched the ball once. It drilled into the slug, not the ball, for the thumb.

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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 11:07:50 AM »
Well of course some of the slug is going to show....I don't know many people that have a thumb bigger than a 1 1/4" thumb slug...do you?

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Yes, but what about when the plugging or slug is still showing, like in the picture?

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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2008, 11:09:53 AM »
I'd consider the ball in that pic to be a single drill.  

It doesn't appear any additional cover/core material was removed to move that thumb hole.

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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 11:10:14 AM »
My opinion is this is a single drill ball.  The ball itself was only drilled once.  A slug is not part of the ball.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2008, 11:10:23 AM »
Do I really want to get into this??? Looking at the picture as an example, what if the original finger drill was for the vacu system and then decided to go back to regular drill of 31/32. Looks like a reduction sleeve was used and in my book STILL FIRST DRILL!! What if the original thumb was 1 3/8 and the span was short, put another slug in original hole, drill span a little wider, STILL TECHNICALLY IN THE ORIGINAL 1st DRILL !
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2008, 11:33:03 AM »
Don't consider the thumb slug a 2nd drill, also don't have a problem drilling the slug out and putting a larger one in. But, in my opinion, if there is actual plug work done, however so slight, to me that is not a single drill! This is just my opinon in the way I look at the stuff that I sell, someone else might look at it a different way.
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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2008, 11:45:51 AM »
This is a copy of my response to the same question on BBE....

A thumb slug drilled out and another put back into the exact original hole just to change the thumb pitch is a single drill.

Fingers "poured" to change the finger pitch and drilled back into the exact same hole is a single drill.

A thumb plugged to change span is ....plugged and not a single drill.

Fingers plugged to change span is....plugged and not a single drill.

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Re: What is considered a Single drilled ball ??
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2008, 11:54:41 AM »
Guys, Thanks for all the reply's so far.

 I started this for a good discussion, (or what I thought would be), and not to get people to start arguing.

 There was, in the past several months balls I looked at here in the For Sale Forum, that said "single drill".  To me if you can see any plug work or thumb slug showing because of span adjustment, it's not a single drill.
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