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Fluff E Bunnie

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What is low/normal/high speed?
« on: December 20, 2007, 12:00:59 AM »
Here is a Q for you:
What speeds are typically considered low, normal, and high speeds?  I am talking off the hand speed.

As a follow up question, how much speed do you at least want to have at the pins?    I know I have read the answer to this somewhere...


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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 08:08:23 AM »
IMO: 14 or less should be considered low speed, while 16-18 is normal, above that ( like I said IMO) should be considered high.

As far as the second part of your question what ever your comfortable and  you can repeat, oh yea and gets the job done. For me it is about 16-17
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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 08:14:12 AM »
Isn't there a variation between 2 different speed counters?  One of them being 3 mph slower than the other.  It has something to do with where the radar is coming from, before/after pin deck, not sure.
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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 08:40:04 AM »
To answer your second question, its not a matter of what speed is good where, its a matter of matching the rev rate to the speed.   If you throw it 13 mph at the pin-deck, you don't want to have 450 rpm.  However, if you are around a 18 mph speed at the pins, a rev-rate like that would be ideal.

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Martin710

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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 12:58:37 PM »
My center recently installed a new system which shows the ball speed. Can you tell me where that speed is registered? At the pin deck or exactly where?
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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 01:01:59 PM »
Most likely it's at the pin deck.  The speeds are usually measured by the same cameras that determine what pins, if any, are standing.  Even if it's not the same cameras, the speed detector is usually housed with that equipment.  I wouldn't guess that unless you have a CATS or Digitrax system that the speed is measured off the hand (and you'll know if you're using that system).

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Eddie M

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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 02:09:34 PM »
From my experience most speed sensors are only accurate to determine speed variations and not true ball speed.  For example, my strike shot will usually read around 16mph.  When I shoot a corner pin I use a plastic ball, and throw it with the same approach and release as my strike ball.... but the speed consistantly registers at around 19mph.  Now am I truely throwing my spare ball a full 3 mph faster at spares?  No chance.  Which speed is correct and which is bogus?  I personally feel the speed registered on the ball which doesn't hook is closest to a true reading.  Regardless, the speed indicated is only accurate when throwing like shots, and only accurate to the point as to get a general feel for how consistantly you are throwing the ball.
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Eddie M

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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 02:10:56 PM »
ddp

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Re: What is low/normal/high speed?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 03:52:32 PM »
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From my experience most speed sensors are only accurate to determine speed variations and not true ball speed.  For example, my strike shot will usually read around 16mph.  When I shoot a corner pin I use a plastic ball, and throw it with the same approach and release as my strike ball.... but the speed consistantly registers at around 19mph.  Now am I truely throwing my spare ball a full 3 mph faster at spares?  No chance.  Which speed is correct and which is bogus?  I personally feel the speed registered on the ball which doesn't hook is closest to a true reading.  Regardless, the speed indicated is only accurate when throwing like shots, and only accurate to the point as to get a general feel for how consistantly you are throwing the ball.
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Plastic balls don't slow down like resins/particles do. So it could be an accurate estimation.
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