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What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« on: February 11, 2004, 09:25:22 PM »
What makes bowling so difficult at a tour stop?  Is it the oil patterns, nerves, competition?  I have no doubt that anyone bowling at these things averages 220 or so.  But what makes people bowl 180s and 170s when the PBA lays down a shot?  I guess my main questions is, what is the MOST difficult thing about bowling a PBA stop.  I know we got some tour guys on here, and plenty of people who bowl an occasional stop.  Jabroni IEQ etc.  Btw, I do believe that is probably extremely difficult, I just don't know exactly why.  If you practice on a sport shot, and are a good spare shooter, what accounts for the further drop in average at a pba stop.
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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 12:34:08 PM »
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What makes bowling so difficult at a tour stop?  Is it the oil patterns, nerves, competition?  


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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 12:42:21 PM »
the constant change of scenery and the travel make the tour much more difficult.

if you took the same pba tour and played in one house for 4 months, they'd average 10 pins higher or more.

once you've been competing for awhile, nerves play less of a part.  sure you're nervous, but you have learned how to channel that feeling into positive energy, or at least learned to not let it effect your shot too much.

was pete nervous this past weekend? . . . sure.  did it effect his bowling? . . . probably very little.

just my opinion.
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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2004, 12:45:48 PM »
Taken from a man that wiped out Parker Bohn when the lefties had a week this is called from the horses mouth!

In addition I think that very often league equipment.  ie I want big backend from my equipment to carry on carrydown. Very often does not work or only works part of the time on tour.

A big part of the puzzle on tour seems to be the harder barrier between wet and dry at the end of the pattern.  (very Little buffing or blending)
In the early part of most tournaments the ball just explodes at the breakpoint unless the bowler has brought equipment to mute the reaction.  If he brings his league 230 stuff he's toast!  

Oh and then carrydown develops later as the oils used on tour are very durable.

A total test of technique equipment understanding and skills and nerves.

Oh then the TV shot. And the TV ads schedule and how it affects a bowlers rhythm.  Ever got a double and then had to sit for another five minutes.  One can just not really get a flow!

Have I described a lot of these things right MIKE???

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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2004, 12:57:36 PM »
CC Bowler,

Like Mike Cimba says, it is very many things that you mentioned.

Competition:  The regular tour players are the BEST bowlers in the world, period.  They don't miss spares, hardly ever!!

Lane condition: Yes the lanes are tougher than any league condition and most sport conditions.  But, experience has alot to do with it.  When those guys bowl on pattern B, they mostly ALL play the lanes the same way.  When they bowl in pattern E, the play the lanes the same way, different than B, but the same as each other.  Each pattern has it's own personality and a correct way to play it.  They kinda work together to break the lane down and increase the scoring pace.  IMO, that is one reason the leftys have been struggling some, there aren't enough of them to do what the rightys do.

The lanes don't transition the same way in regionals as the tour.  You have too many "lesser" bowlers in regionals, that don't play the lanes correctly, so they are gonna break down in a different fashion.

Nerves: that has something to do with it for guys like me, I have been a PBA Member since 1987, so I have seen alot, but I haven't bowled but about 10 tour stops, so I have trouble getting comfortable.  Then I show up in Dallas last year and my first cross is with Tom Baker, Ryan Shafer, and Rudy Revs.  I have met each one individually, and they are all nice guys.  But, they are all from New York, are all trying to bowl for a living, and have that "we play the lanes a certain way out here" thing going.  They didn't say much to me while bowling, by PBA rules they aren't supposed to either, but it happens.  I'm the toe trying to steal some of their pie, they aren't going to help me do it.  I didn't play the lanes correctly, shot 50 under.

I'm not gonna elaborate on the travel thing, it is just plain harder.

I'm bowling the Dallas Tour stop next week, as it will likely be the last time I get a chance to due to the exempt tour next year.

Hope this helped ya....

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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 02:35:23 PM »
This is an easy question.  The hardest thing is...

99% of the guys are better than you.  Plain and simple.
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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 04:58:52 PM »
I agree with what everyone has said for the most part. But talking to some regional players that bowl some national stops they say two things kill them. First are the fresh patterns, trust me when I say you have not seen backends like this ever, in league or the local association tourney etc. Secondly is the transition most regional players are very good on the house pattern partly because their speed and rev-rate allow them to play certain areas of the foreign to the average league player. But when you so many high rev players on one pair across the house the lanes breakdown fast and very ugly. Truly early hook in the heads and very and I mean very tight backends. It is vital that you have all the tools if you decide to venture out to the national or even the regional tour. Or else you will paying for very expensive practice.
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Re: What is the hardest thing about a PBA tour stop?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 09:55:05 PM »
pishtosh -- I think the spare percentage you refer to includes the splits the pros leave.  They get a lot of strikes, but when they do miss many times they leave a split or washout.  If you take the splits away, I'll bet their conversion percentage is well over 90%.  --  JohnP