what is the strongest particle ball out. I was wondering what is the best out to handle some oil.

Charlest, you are right about the full roller drills, most of the balls my buddy has with an exception of a couple have full roller drills, they are odd looking drills. For instance it will look like the pin and cg are perpindicular to the fingers and thumb. These layouts work well for him. But up until he found a ball driller who could put a full roller drill on a ball or even cared to notice his game he had stack leverage drills. Now some of the balls he had a stack leverage drill on worked well for the most part, for instance he a had a time zone and a hammer diesel pearl reactive that worked good for him. So I assume some of the balls characteristics may make a big difference. Now the rule layout the same way did not work for him. It was too straight. Never broke to the pocket like he wanted it too. Suprisingly the fuzed with a stack leverage moved more than the rule for him.

I have recently used 3/4 drillings on a Razor Wire & Full Throttle, and have had success with both. The track flare (bowtie) ends up being about 3" above the middle finger, and the ball goes longer than my standard full-roller drills (pin at 7:30 from thumb). The layout of both these balls are similar- pin next to ring finger, cg straight down from there (both are pin -out balls, about 3-4". My Razor Wire with this drilling behaves like an old Blue Urethane Hammer, nice arc action, while the Full Throttle turns much harder on the back. Give it a shot, it will give you other options for tournaments, at the very least.

lilphyzx, I'm a full roller that has experimented with a lot of drills to try and achieve more length, better back end, etc. When I do the traditional (pin negative thumb quad 7:30 alingment) I definitely don't do the 3&3/8 pin to center of grip. The combination of leverage drill and pin in the negative thumb quad checks up too soon on most medium league shots. 2&3/4" pin to center of grip works better for me on common league medium oil shots. The 3&3/8" works better when there is a lot of oil. One other option that I recently tried was pin in a 1:30 position from center of grip. You have to put the pin 10 or so inches from grip center. Measure the pin to pap distance like you would for any normal bowler to get the desired reaction. This drilling for me results in more length than the traditional 7:30 drill. It also may clip the thumb hole which I just live with cause it really wasn't that big of a deal. I find with both the 7:30 and 1:30 drills that if I keep the center of gravity and the pin in a straight line pointing back to grip center the backend reaction is more smooth and continuos, resulting in better carry. I once experimented with a 75 degree drilling on 2 low differential balls and it was a disaster. 1/2 a board off on the shot and I was guaranteed a split and redrilled both balls.  Went back to pin and C.G. in a straight line to grip center and I actually got the nice even backend reaction back that I had become accustomed to with full roller drillings.

                                  Thanks,
                                  Mike E
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spookster -- No, as far as I know all the ball companies recommend putting the pin 3 3/8" from the grip center on a 45 degree line from the center line into the negative thumb quadrant.  Someone else has already mentioned the other one I've read about on the drillinga and layouts board of this site - about 10" from the grip center at a 45 degree line from the center line into the positive finger quadrant.  --  JohnP