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1MechEng

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Avoiding a balance hole
« on: November 27, 2007, 10:31:24 AM »
I am looking to punch up a new ball as a Christmas present to myself. I'm not a ball ho (though I wish I was!), so this ball needs to be something I can live with as my primary ball for the next 3-5 years.

I am currently looking at probably buying a low RG ball (with a matte or particle pearl cover) that has a higher RG differential (something like the Gamebreaker, Fury, Mystic, etc.). I am thinking of starting with a ball that has standard specs (16 lbs., 2-3 oz. TW, 2-3 in. pin).

My stats: Speed is 16 mph near the pin deck as measured by Qubica. I have approx. 200-250 revs/min. My preferred line right now is straight up 10, or 10-8, but is somewhat lane condition dependent.

For the drilling on this new ball, I was going to probably go with pin under ring finger to get rolling earlier and have more of an arc to the pocket. The driller at my local house will need to put a weight hole in the lower thumb quadrant to make it legal. This setup is familiar to me as it is almost the exact same layout that is currently on my ShowTime Sanded.

The big question: Is there a top weight/pin length combination that will get me the same reaction that I am looking for without having to drill the extra weight hole?

Bonus question: Suggest your favorite low RG, high differential, non-pearl ball (particle pearl is OK) for a "tweener" like myself.
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 06:35:12 PM »
1-2" pin with a top lower than 2-2.5 will do the trick.
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 06:40:28 PM »
If you want to go with a pin under ring, then just try a shorter pin.  1-2" like Nick said would work fine along with a top around 2oz.  

As for ball choice, if you are looking for symmetric, take a look at the Horizon solid.  It's a tremendous piece.  If looking at asymmetric, I highly recommend the original Epic.  There are of course a plethora of choices that fit your criteria.

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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 06:42:11 PM »
Nick -
Thanks for the quick response! Will there be any loss of performance with the shorter pin/lower TW vs. the standard ball?

Also - any other ball recommendations, or am I pretty much on target?
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 06:59:15 PM »
Thanks for the confirmation on Nick's analysis, Don and Inverted1.
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 07:23:08 PM »
Nope, there is no difference with short pins vs long pins other than the limitations on the drill patterns. This all just relates to the USBC static weight limits, extremely marginal on core orientation. Get rid of that rule, and ball manufacturers can make whatever they'd like.
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 07:42:14 PM »
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Nope, there is no difference with short pins vs long pins other than the limitations on the drill patterns. This all just relates to the USBC static weight limits, extremely marginal on core orientation. Get rid of that rule, and ball manufacturers can make whatever they'd like.


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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 09:01:33 PM »
I'll second the Horizon Solid.  Coverstock takes adjustments very well.  I've used it OOB (800 wet sand), 1000, 2000, and 4000 Abralon.  Very nice rolling piece of equipment.
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 09:11:23 PM »
my arsenal consists entirely of brunswick equipment that doesn't need balance holes. my mammoth, fury, total inferno, and rampage all have the pin right next to my middle finger and the cg is swung towatds the grip center. my power groove has the pin over the fingers with the cg in the grip center. these balls are all finished with different grits of sanding and/or polishes and they all have their place in an arsenal. i usually get balls with the pin out 3-4" and at least 3.0oz. of top weight.
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 10:44:54 PM »
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I'll second the Horizon Solid.  Coverstock takes adjustments very well.  I've used it OOB (800 wet sand), 1000, 2000, and 4000 Abralon.  Very nice rolling piece of equipment.
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Third for the Horizon Solid, what a great ball.  

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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2007, 10:03:03 AM »
Ditto on what Nick said.

If you are looking for a versatile low RG/high diff ball, the Storm Secret Agent meets those specs. This ball is quite versatile and can be dulled or shined.

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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2007, 10:14:00 AM »
A SuperNova XP with a 1-2" pin drilled label 1:30 with 1/2 side 1/2 finger works great. Start with around 2 1/2 oz. top. You can't go wrong. =:^D
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2007, 10:45:03 AM »
Based on my own search, plus everyone's feedback, I have a list of potential balls that looks like this:

Fury
Gamebreaker
Total Inferno
Supernova
Awesome Revs
Agent (not secret agent)
Kinetic
Mystic
Horizon Solid
Momentum
Frankie May Gryphon (added on edit at amish's suggestion)

Most of the balls on here are matte finish ... pearls seem to go too long for me because I am slightly speed dominant.

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the great input so far guys!
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2007, 01:14:47 PM »
awesome revs
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Re: Avoiding a balance hole
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2007, 08:12:11 PM »
Chalk up another vote for the Supernova (or Supernova XP).
My stats look to be on par with yours.
If you are bowling on a medium to heavy THS, go with the Supernova.
If you are bowling on the lighter side of medium, the XP would fit the bill.
Having both, I would say the original Supernova would be the more versatile of the two.
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