Author Topic: Dealing with transition (Read 1687 times)

MrPerfect · « **on:** April 06, 2010, 02:08:51 AM »

I am currently bowling at a house for league that uses a very low volume but longer pattern. The pattern typically holds for a game, and then with all of the traffic it's the great migration left the rest of the night.

I was curious on how you guys play changing lanes? What do you look for? What are you typical expereinces and adjustments?

Dyno-Joe · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2010, 10:16:36 AM »

You pretty much are going to be stuck into making moves left. It's still a house shot in league. People are going to be all over the place throwing whatever they want. Now if you had a team that would work together and play straighter and gradually move in, you might not have to be as far in as early. One thing you can do is maybe make progressive moves. Say after game 1 going into game 2 you can move left right away to try to stay ahead of everything. Transition is going to happen, and more than likely its bump left. A thing to look for is when someone leaves a 4 pin or 9 pin a good looking shot. Really all comes down to observations and having a feel of the lane when its going to begin forcing you left.

MrPerfect · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2010, 12:10:46 PM »

Yeah, I know what your saying, it''s almost ridiculous how quick the move left starts. Last night I started on 12 board throwing it out to the 4 board, to finishing on 35 throwing it to the 10 board.

So you watch the other bowlers on the lane to see if they make good shots that perhaps read the lane differently and then move off of their shots as well as your own.

Also, when you decide to dive in what size move are we talking and what other adjustments do you make? For example: Say I''m throwing between the 2/3 arrows out to 7 at the breakpoint, and I''m going to jump into the 4th arrow and send it to 7? Or change the breakpoint as well? Is there a method for figuring out how to know when to change your breakpoint as you move left? I know there are 1:1, 2:1, and other moves but how do you know what should be your move?

In terms of progression of equipment, I''m already to the point on this new pattern that I get barely a game in before my Hy-Road is to much ball for the lanes. Do you like to start with something and move down as the lanes change, or start with something you know that you can use the entire night and just chase left with the same ball?

I''m thinking about picking up one of the new low end core/high end cover combos that they are putting out and just using it all night long. Perhaps a Freeze, Avalanche, Troplical Heat, Etc.

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MrPerfect · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2010, 05:04:20 PM »

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How to read a transition: There are 2 things to look for.
1. When does your ball transition from slide to hook. This can be difficult to see if you are not very versed in doing it. Watching other bowlers is often easier especially when you are training yourself on what to look for.

2. Where does the ball exit the pin deck. If you watch you will see that your ball deflects more and more towards the 9 pin (for right handers) as the lanes break down and the ball encounters more friction. The ball should exit between the 8 and 9 pin. When it starts deflecting more towards the 9 pin it is time to move.

What to do when you encounter transition: Exactly how far you move is dependent on the length of the pattern, but moving you feet 5 and your mark 3 is usually the right amount. You may also move from a dull coverstock to a shiny coverstock when you make your first move depending on what other lines people are playing around you. Generally you want to move big, unless you have somebody playing where you want to move to. Even then you may be able to just jump their line and make a really big move if they are your typical league camper.

Thanks. I'm going to work on all of these. First things first I going to map out what my equipment does and what to look for so that if I need to make a ball change I can eliminate most of the guess work as it pertains to equipment. When you make a big jump inside do you change anything in terms of adjustments besides the actual arrow and breakpoint? Ex: Lower the ball? Walk slower? Hold the ball differently? Try to get more behind/side of the ball?

northface28 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2010, 05:06:15 PM »

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How to read a transition: There are 2 things to look for.
1. When does your ball transition from slide to hook. This can be difficult to see if you are not very versed in doing it. Watching other bowlers is often easier especially when you are training yourself on what to look for.

2. Where does the ball exit the pin deck. If you watch you will see that your ball deflects more and more towards the 9 pin (for right handers) as the lanes break down and the ball encounters more friction. The ball should exit between the 8 and 9 pin. When it starts deflecting more towards the 9 pin it is time to move.

What to do when you encounter transition: Exactly how far you move is dependent on the length of the pattern, but moving you feet 5 and your mark 3 is usually the right amount. You may also move from a dull coverstock to a shiny coverstock when you make your first move depending on what other lines people are playing around you. Generally you want to move big, unless you have somebody playing where you want to move to. Even then you may be able to just jump their line and make a really big move if they are your typical league camper.

Thanks. I'm going to work on all of these. First things first I going to map out what my equipment does and what to look for so that if I need to make a ball change I can eliminate most of the guess work as it pertains to equipment. When you make a big jump inside do you change anything in terms of adjustments besides the actual arrow and breakpoint? Ex: Lower the ball? Walk slower? Hold the ball differently? Try to get more behind/side of the ball?

Whatever you do, be confident, or else you will be in mental state over/under. Make moves with conviction, more often than not you will be correct.
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MrPerfect · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2010, 09:00:12 PM »

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You should not move your breakpoint just your feet and mark. Breakpoint is dependent on the length of the pattern and should be the same whether you are standing on 20 or 40. Most of the time you should not need to make any adjustments other then feet and mark, but if you are already pushing the limit of your release you may need to increase your axis rotation to compensate.

That is the part I was having problems understanding. I assumed the breakpoint stayed the same, and someone told me inaccurately that a 2/1 move related to the feet and breakpoint. I always assumed a 2/1 move meant 2 with the feet and 1 with the eyes.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2010, 05:31:18 AM »

Anticipation is IMO key. If you already know that the pattern only holds 1 game, I'd prepare a long-term strategy.

I'd use a weak(er) ball and start straight(er), waiting for the lane to open up more, then move deeper OR closer to the gutter, if there is a lot of traffic inside that kills the heads.
Key is to be prepared, both mentally and with your skills and equipment, to stay ahead(!) trouble and avoid dead ends when the lane has already changed so much that you have a hard time judging adjustments. If you wait too long or start poor, you will come to a point where you have to battle against the lane ever more, pure actionism.
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