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cowboy17

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Question on RG /Diff
« on: September 01, 2007, 10:18:01 PM »
When looking for a new ball we all know the makes we prefer how we like them drilled and the finish polished / dull etc but how much can the RG effect the ball I use a L/M BRB which is RG 2.574 diff 0.037 Im looking at the coming BPR which is RG 2.559 diff 0.055 if drilled the same what will I see different if anything ????
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Dyno-Joe

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Re: Question on RG /Diff
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 07:21:47 AM »
My understanding of RG is basically how fast the ball will rotate. The lower, the earlier you will see the ball wanting to hook. The higher, more time for it start wanting to hook. But surface is still the dominant characteristic in this. And differential I thought was how much potential it has to flare. Just my understandings, please correct me if I am wrong.

charlest

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Re: Question on RG /Diff
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 09:16:08 AM »
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When looking for a new ball we all know the makes we prefer how we like them drilled and the finish polished / dull etc but how much can the RG effect the ball I use a L/M BRB which is RG 2.574 diff 0.037 Im looking at the coming BPR which is RG 2.559 diff 0.055 if drilled the same what will I see different if anything ????
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Cowboy,

UNless you have several balls with the same shaped core and the specifications (RG and DIff and, ifapplicable, mass bais strength), it is IMPOSSIBLE to draw conclusions about a ball by looking ONLY at the core's specifications.

In this case the BRB and the BPR's coverstocks are different; so NO ONE can tell you what how the ball reactions will differ except those who have thrown both (drilled the same) and those who designed the balls.

Right now, the best comparison is the Lanemasters ball chart. Go to their website and click on the TECHNICAL button. Under it, the first choice is BALL CHART. It shows the BPR is designed to be slightly earlier and to handle slightly more oil than the BRB.

FYI The BPR is not due out until Februrary of 2008.

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cowboy17

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Re: Question on RG /Diff
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 10:07:26 AM »
Thanks guys for your replies I understand the ball surface finish well as I use the haus resurfaceing system but not so much about RG hens the question so can I change it a bit how do you work out what a ball will do, how it will react and so on from the RG info given about the ball
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dizzyfugu

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Re: Question on RG /Diff
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 10:45:04 AM »
CharlesT is correct - it is very importnat to take the coverstock and the surface preparation into account. The are a unit with the core and its features.
Basically, a lower RG will rev up easier and also deliver its energy easier in the back end once it hits the dry and the core comes into its stable end position. This can help on long/heavier patterns. A higher RG will conserve the energy better and deliver it later, relatively. The RG differential will tell you much much flare potential a ball offers, and the amount of hook you can create through the pin placement. But how much it actually flares depends on the drilling, and how it reacts overall will more depend on the surface prep.
If you take both of your LM balls. drilled the same, I'd say you will recognize a difference, because the BPR's differential is a lot bigger than the BRB's. The RG differences will IMHO hardly matter. But with the same setup, the BPR should be better suited for more and longer oil than the BRB - while you have to keep in mind that the surface prep will do more on the condition suitablility than the pin position.

The pin is important to determine how much and when the ball will react, while the surface prep makes it suitable and working effectively on a certain condition - but it makes sense to fit both aspects into a good package to exploit a ball's potential (see also above for core specs).
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charlest

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Re: Question on RG /Diff
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 07:11:16 PM »
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 ... how do you work out what a ball will do, how it will react and so on from the RG info given about the ball
Thanx
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Personally, I do it in several ways. The best and simplest is to watch someone you know throw the ball, see how it's drill, know how your balls react on the oil and lane on which he is throwing it. That way you have some idea how to relate how he throws it to how you throw it.

Second, read professional reviews, like those in Bowling This Month and Bowlers' Journal Magazines. See how reviews of balls they have done relate to the same ball you throw. This builds a point of reference. WHat they see in a new ball will give you some idea how that ball will rect for you, ON THE OIL PATTERN YOU BOWL and ON THE LANE SURFACE YOU BOWL.

Third, read good, FULLY DETAILED reviews of balls done here and elsewhere. It should be by a person whose game you understand (in order to relate it to your game/release/delivery) and who has posted useful reviews before.


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