Post by: Magic Carpet on May 03, 2008, 02:07:03 AM
Many of you read Bowling This Month Magazine and take Bowlers Journal; some of you have taken the magazines for a short time and I am sure some of you have taken bowling magazines for over 10 years.
What subject would you like to see covered that ether has never been covered (that you have seen) or that you would like to see covered in more detail. Perhaps there are subjects that were covered years ago but need to be updated for today’s game.
Bowl great!
Ron Clifton
Post by: azguy on May 03, 2008, 10:18:09 AM
Cover changes, what effect will polish have on grits.
Layouts for midlane hook, down and in style, dry lanes or heavy oil.
Thumb pitch, more feel for the bowler or more required for tech aspects.
Finger pitch, more or less pitch for more/less revs.
stretched vs relaxed spans.
Oil extraction ( at home), what is the best/easiest to accomplish ?
Thanks for asking, at least we as a group can never say...wish they had something in here that I wanted to know/read.
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Post by: JessN16 on May 03, 2008, 01:03:08 PM
1) A very detailed, head-to-head comparison between performance characteristics of the same ball with the same drill only at different Abralon finishes (one of azguy's responses, just expanded a little).
2) Charting the optimum rev/speed ratio from slow to fast (i.e., if you have a 250 rev rate, your speed should be X), and how you can change your style to hit this "sweet spot."
3) A very detailed look at hybrid cover bowling balls (the solid/pearl combos) and how they differ from their solid or pearl counterparts.
4) Thumb vent holes. I say this because I fought thumb hole issues for over a decade and just recently started drilling vent holes, and it has solved my problem. I rarely see it talked about, though, and I think others could benefit from it.
5) A full spread on non-traditional layouts (i.e., Tommy Jones, Girard, 315, etc.)
Jess
Post by: JessN16 on May 03, 2008, 01:30:28 PM
Jess
Post by: azguy on May 03, 2008, 02:20:24 PM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on May 03, 2008, 02:30:44 PM
Top hat bowling how to take advantage!
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Edited on 5/3/2008 2:31 PM
Post by: novawagonmaster on May 03, 2008, 03:09:06 PM
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Top hat bowling how to take advantage!
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
"Palm ball inserting only fingers in holes. Stand left. Throw right with many revs and high speed. Watch for rediculous carry if you are anywhere near the head pin." That would be a short article.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swerve~
Post by: revTrex on May 03, 2008, 03:11:56 PM
P.S.
Guys, remember that BJI now has new instructional articles (as of May)!
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Post by: Skizriz on May 03, 2008, 07:43:32 PM
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Post by: CRSmith on May 04, 2008, 08:59:23 AM
Keep up the good work. I enjoy your articles.
Post by: John D Davis on May 04, 2008, 10:07:27 AM
I think that would be an article just by itself... What I think could be added to this, is maybe compare the directins of the lines of the abralon finishes. If a resurface machine is used then does that react totally different then a finished ball on a ball spinner??? Maybe put the ball on a spinner and go with a desired pad, and place the lines at different degrees from the track. Perhaps 90', 70', and 45'. I have come to learn that having lines perpendicualar to your track make the ball go longer vs. the lines going against your track, but just how much of a difference do these line positioning make.
For an added bonsus to this article would be to compare ball reaction from having applied different ball polishes. Perhaps a silicon polish, a non-adhesive,etc. Not sure the exact words for these polishes but I know there is some that would cause a very differnt ball reaction. Along this polishes would be the greatly know finess polish people has used over the years. Some say they clog the pours, some even say they use this polish when they dont need a ball to hook much... This test may prove to bowlers that using the right polish makes a world of difference!!
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 04, 2008, 12:52:45 PM
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Brick
Post by: Magic Carpet on May 05, 2008, 11:29:44 AM
By reading through this list it is easy to pick up on where the industry needs to share more information if it is available.
Some of your questions (regarding layouts and ball reactions) are simply not answerable without some kind of standardized lane condition that every ball would be tested on. It would have to be something like Bill Taylor’s oil-less lane and even then the results would not really be relevant to you bowling on an oiled lane.
There are thousands of variables that determine what a ball does as it goes down the lane and I am afraid that no one can do the testing for you in some cases.
I guess what we would all like is a computer program where we could just plug in some info and get an answer. Lane condition “shark†- Lane surface ‘HPL†– Ball speed 18 MPH – Rev rate 350 RPM –axis rotation 45 degrees – axis tilt 10 degrees…beep beep, lights flash…DING. Answer: use the Gravity Shift in bag number 2.
The problem is, if you really knew all the variables, by the time you inputted all of them into the computer some of the variables would have changed already and the tournament would be over.
Some of your questions like “Cover changes, what effect will polish have on grits†you can see for yourself better than anyone else could ever do it for you.
I suggest that everyone take three balls and spend a day changing the surface on them and see what you get. Take all three balls in the shop and have them made as shinny as they can and go throw them. If you are luck enough to be able to throw them on different oil patterns that is even better. After you have a good feel for all three balls take them back into the shop and have them taken down to like 2000 and throw them all again. Then 1000 and then 500 or 600.
By doing this you can learn how each ball reacts (as least on the condition you have in front of you) to surface changes. Changing surface is one the best weapons you can have and one of the most over looked. If I were going to carry around 3 balls you can bet one would be polished (pass the Bean Sauce please), one would be 2000 Abralon and one would be 600 Abralon.
More later, keep the ideas coming.
Thanks
Ron Clifton
Post by: Borincano on May 05, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
Post by: janderson on May 06, 2008, 09:04:56 AM
Tips and tricks. I see so many bowlers randomly jamming tape in their holes, tearing finger nails and having no resource to help stop the bleeding, that kind of thing. I believe I get asked for more advice on these "little things" more than anything else.
I think you see where I'm going with this...
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Post by: Borincano on May 06, 2008, 09:10:35 AM
Post by: revTrex on May 06, 2008, 12:49:21 PM
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And for a topic.
Let's talk about the new USBC specifications for pores of the bowling balls. What kind of testing is done to see the size of pores, and go over balls in the past year that would of been legal and illegal to see how this is going to effect coverstocks of newer bowling balls.
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Ball driller for Bean's Pro Shop
Specializing in Lane #1 Bowling Balls
www.BeansProShop.com
"Home of the Secret Sauce"
Saginaw Valley State University Bowling Team '08-'09
It's often really hard to convince an editor to mention specific balls in an article...after all, those balls are manufactured by the magazine's number 1 or 2 source of revenue, i.e., the ball companies. So it would be difficult to call out certain balls as illegal or legal, because that would in turn possibly P.O. the ball companies.
Now, I understand what you're thinking. "But it's doing a service to the bowler!" Yeah, I know it is. But it's a balancing act for the mags. Your revenue streams can't go to hell just for one article. Something you'd have to consider is that, when the new specs go into effect, the ball companies will have to comply. There isn't a way around it. So, the balls you'll be using will be changed. The balls you previously used -- which may or may not fall under the new guidelines -- will most likely be grandfathered in, at least for a substantial period of time (long enough that you will no longer use one of those now "illegal" balls).
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on May 06, 2008, 12:55:22 PM
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How to stop leaning forward at the foul line/delivery point for older bowlers that cannot squat down and perform the proper knee bend.
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"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away."
Brick
Post by: Pinbuster on May 06, 2008, 12:57:46 PM
I would like to see something on lane play. How to read lane graphs, how to find the sweet spot on the lane, etc.