Author Topic: What to do with your fingers during release (Read 2318 times)

akt22 · « **on:** July 03, 2009, 02:19:49 PM »

Basically as the title says, what should I do with my fingers so that I can create a constant release while still making revs? Ive tried many things, but no matter what I do with them, I always feel inconsistent with my release. Even if I wear a brace due to my weak wrist, I still can't get that feeling of releasing a good ball with solid revs consistently. Even if I try coming up the back of the ball, I still get inconsistent results.

So if you have any tips, I would appreciate it.

Smash49 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:46:52 PM »

I was told a long time ago to snap my fingers. Just like the Addams Family.

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bluerrpilot · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2009, 12:10:47 AM »

As little as possible....it works pretty good for PDW
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jorr19 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2009, 02:23:41 AM »

the heavy feeling on the ends of your fingers comes from 1. good timing 2. not muscling the ball and 3. a proper swing plane. see a qualified coach for help improving your mechanics and the feeling will always be there.
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icewall · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:47:13 AM »

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the heavy feeling on the ends of your fingers comes from 1. good timing 2. not muscling the ball and 3. a proper swing plane. see a qualified coach for help improving your mechanics and the feeling will always be there.
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i agree with this.

for an easy repeatable release lock your wrist into a comfortable position... preferably with the weight of the ball resting on the right half of your hand (if your righty, this will cause you to work the inside of the ball). and keep it there for the entire swing and keep your arm very loose and dont grab with your thumb. then when you release the ball DO NOT LIFT! some coaches say that you should feel your ring finger at the release OR follow thru with the ring finger and pinky... meaning that if you're primarily feel your index or middle finger you will turn the ball and end up working the outside of the ball.

all your revs and power in your release comes from your swing and leverage generated by good timing, a free swing, and the uncoiling/gravity taking the ball from your thumb to your fingers.

watch this video... an incredible amount of power but he does NOTHING at the release and that makes it easy to repeat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMISXxMVGdU

Edited on 7/5/2009 6:50 AM

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2009, 11:31:07 AM »

It begins with having the proper span and pitches (aka proper fit) of the ball. Without this first, it is more difficult to accomplish the other things mentioned here.
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Kinalyx · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2009, 01:51:49 PM »

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the heavy feeling on the ends of your fingers comes from 1. good timing 2. not muscling the ball and 3. a proper swing plane. see a qualified coach for help improving your mechanics and the feeling will always be there.
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Carry is not luck, it's physics.
In my bag... Rogue Cell, Cell Pearl, Widow Venom, Rapid Fire Pearl, Raw Hammer Psycho, Avalanche Slide, Rattler and Storm Paradigm.

i agree with this.

for an easy repeatable release lock your wrist into a comfortable position... preferably with the weight of the ball resting on the right half of your hand (if your righty, this will cause you to work the inside of the ball). and keep it there for the entire swing and keep your arm very loose and dont grab with your thumb. then when you release the ball DO NOT LIFT! some coaches say that you should feel your ring finger at the release OR follow thru with the ring finger and pinky... meaning that if you're primarily feel your index or middle finger you will turn the ball and end up working the outside of the ball.

all your revs and power in your release comes from your swing and leverage generated by good timing, a free swing, and the uncoiling/gravity taking the ball from your thumb to your fingers.

watch this video... an incredible amount of power but he does NOTHING at the release and that makes it easy to repeat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMISXxMVGdU

Edited on 7/5/2009 6:50 AM

I dont understand why ur saying this guy has a lot of power. i would call this med/low revs AT BEST. on top of that, i honestly dont feel that his release looks all that good.

Now, im not saying hes not a good bowler, he could average 230+ for all i know, im just going from his form & release, on top of the statement u made of "an incredible amount of power"

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icewall · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:50:02 PM »

what I meant is that for the amount of revs he has the ball stores a lot of energy AND he does not lift to do this. all his power is done thru his approach and leverage.

does he have 400+ revs? no. is he the most accurate? no. but IMO its a damn impressive release and ive seen a few bowlers with that many revs still keeping up with the high rev/power players.

to me its not about revs... its about keeping your fingers on the inside of the ball all the way thru the swing and being able to repeat as well as adjust. look at pete weber... not exactly a power player in terms of revs but due to his release he has a lot of power when it hits the pins at the right angle.

anyway... its not about power... its about angle and being able to get that angle on any oil pattern. having a truly powerful release like tommy jones or belmo is just a bonus and can send messengers more often. but who wins the most often... a man who plays hard and straight.

I think the point im trying to make is that we are for last few years a bit obsessed with rev rate. when I feel as of late that we should be focusing on other things to help us repeat shots.

but thanks for pointing out that I went a little over board on describing his "power". I just like to see someone else throwing it like me

and no im not very good haha... still learning

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akt22 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:04:14 AM »

Thanks again,

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I was told a long time ago to snap my fingers. Just like the Addams Family

I know this is silly but can you simplify what you mean by SNAP MY FINGERS? Like what to actually do with them.

I'll check my fit to make sure it's proper because I'm thinking that may be the reason.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2009, 09:28:44 AM »

What I found most important for a good release is good timing. Footwork and pendulum have to go together, otherwise you can add as much revs as you like, they won't result in proper execution or a good ball reaction. The "mistake" is not in the fingers, its sources start much earlier in the overall delivery.

That said, I'd make sure you release the ball just a split second before it passes your sliding foot's ankle (given that you slide at all - a timing issue). Ideally, you keep the hand behind the ball, and the ball rolls across your finger tips forward while you propel it out onto the lane with your follow-through.

You CAN curl your fingers in this moment, and some players are even able to add a snapping motion with their wrist that adds extra momentum and revs. But with good timing, you should be able to put some decent revs onto the ball even without any extra finger action.

It is tough, anyway, just remember that revs are no good just for the sake of it, and do not force the issue - chances are high that you habitualize flaws and extra muscle power that is detrimental to a good and consistent release which lets the ball actually do its job on the lanes.

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backswing_aplenty · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2009, 06:58:06 PM »

You don't want to DO much of anything at the release. Proper timing with a reasonably strong wrist position will give you all the revolutions you need.

The more LIFT, or upward motion you apply to the fingers the more inconsistent the reaction will be. Less is more with todays equipment.

If you have to DO something try uncupping the wrist at the bottom of the swing. That's probably what you see when you see guys with a lot of action at the bottom of the swing. It's not a lifting motion, they are cupped throughout the swing and then uncup at the right moment to impart revolutions.

Worry about getting the right amount of hook for you, not the most amount. That and solid at the line will get you farther than any lift or hit at the bottom of the swing.

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al_g · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2009, 11:16:30 PM »

Ron Clifton has an article in this months(July 2009) Bowling This Month magazine about increasing your rev rate. I think it's definitely worth a read if you can get your hands on a copy.

akt22 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2009, 01:56:51 AM »

Sorry to bring this up but I think my thumb might be another problem. As I continue to observe my release, the way thumb comes out is inconsistent. Sometimes it comes out early, other times it comes out late to the point it feels like it comes out the same time as my fingers.

What can I do so that my thumb comes out early enough to transfer the weight of the ball to my fingers constantly? I've tried tape but if I put too much, my thumb sticks and if I put to little I squeeze a lot. I can't find the happy ration of tape to put so I've given up on it.

Danes07 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2009, 05:31:05 AM »

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Sorry to bring this up but I think my thumb might be another problem. As I continue to observe my release, the way thumb comes out is inconsistent. Sometimes it comes out early, other times it comes out late to the point it feels like it comes out the same time as my fingers.

What can I do so that my thumb comes out early enough to transfer the weight of the ball to my fingers constantly? I've tried tape but if I put too much, my thumb sticks and if I put to little I squeeze a lot. I can't find the happy ration of tape to put so I've given up on it.

You could try erring on the side of not enough tape and just blowing a little hot air into the thumb hole just before you put your thumb in....gives a nice secure feel without having to squeeze.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2009, 06:59:32 AM »

Could also be a pitch problem!
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