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drw02

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what to use when giving the ball bath
« on: February 05, 2007, 11:47:16 PM »
i wanted to bath my bowling balls and wanted to know if anyone can advise as to the best way to go about doing that and what are the best cleaning products to use?

thanks in advace
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2007, 04:11:28 PM »
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2007, 06:53:14 PM »
When adding the degreaser should you allow it to make soap suds or not?

And does the ball bath work better than resurfacing? I know its cheaper!
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2007, 07:02:28 PM »
Don't need anything. Best thing is to get a bucket and put the ball in it and put it under the spout. That way the oil rises to the top, out of the bucket and in the drain. Do this for 10 minutes , leave the tap on hot and your done.
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2007, 07:05:21 PM »
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Don't need anything. Best thing is to get a bucket and put the ball in it and put it under the spout. That way the oil rises to the top, out of the bucket and in the drain. Do this for 10 minutes , leave the tap on hot and your done.


Ok so I can run it under hot tap water for 10 minutes straight and be done?
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2007, 07:40:38 PM »
Interesting Rick.  Ebonite believes their plasticizer theory and says that heating balls is bad.  Is this a new theory since buying Columbia?  While I'm undecided on the exact method, I can't believe Ebonite has anything to say on the matter.  Oil will float to the top and can be run over the top.  However, a degreaser keeps the oil suspended in the water and shouldn't allow it to re-enter the ball easily, as long as the water stays at a fairly constant temperature.
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GetYaWeigtUp

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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2007, 08:39:11 PM »
Ok I just gave my One and Big One a bath, seperately of course. Both seem squeaky now and clean. The water had oil and dirt all over the place. Should these balls start snapping again like they used to?
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2007, 07:32:35 AM »
I did this last night and it worked great.  There was a lot of oil that came out of all the balls that I did.
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2007, 07:38:30 AM »
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Ok I just gave my One and Big One a bath, seperately of course. Both seem squeaky now and clean. The water had oil and dirt all over the place. Should these balls start snapping again like they used to?
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2007, 08:06:52 AM »
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Interesting Rick.  Ebonite believes their plasticizer theory and says that heating balls is bad.  Is this a new theory since buying Columbia?  While I'm undecided on the exact method, I can't believe Ebonite has anything to say on the matter.  Oil will float to the top and can be run over the top.  However, a degreaser keeps the oil suspended in the water and shouldn't allow it to re-enter the ball easily, as long as the water stays at a fairly constant temperature.
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Strider,
My boss in the shop, who is on Ebonite's staff, attended a seminar either last week or the week before, in Milwaukee, I believe.  At the seminar, they showed the new NV line and put forth this theory about bathing bowling balls.  Apparently, they spend a lot of time researching this sort of thing.

This would have been before the Ebonite/Columbia announcement.

BTW, I didn't ask, so I don't know what the target audience of the seminar was.  I don't know if it was staffers, pro shop operators, or other.  Brian (my boss) said that Ron Hickland, one of the guys from the Ebonite segment on the History Channel Balls show, was doing a lot of the presenting.
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2007, 08:36:58 AM »
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Don't need anything. Best thing is to get a bucket and put the ball in it and put it under the spout. That way the oil rises to the top, out of the bucket and in the drain. Do this for 10 minutes , leave the tap on hot and your done.


This is a great idea!

Hot water baths are the best way to xtract oil from a ball.  It's safe and works great.  
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2007, 12:46:22 PM »
I'll roll my Big One and One tonite and see if there is a difference in the backend reaction and if I get what I like, then I might actually look into more ebonite equiptment. I really hope this helps me keep my balls cleaner from now on cuz I'll do it once a month just to keep them oil free.

If it goes well, I'll bathe my Total Inferno in a few weeks, because thats my favorite ball right now.

I'm gonna take a look at the TNV and the Angular of these come out Ok.
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2007, 12:54:14 PM »
I use the dishwasher, heat off, no soap, short cycle.  No mess, no fuss, just an angry wife to deal with.
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2007, 01:13:26 PM »
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be careful guys, when doing this you could actually pull out plastecizer with the oil. givin ya a heads up.


Actually, that is all that comes out of a ball...  the liquid, really isn't oil at all..  I'm working on finding my data, but will post when I'm finished.

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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2007, 01:15:32 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer

Looks like plasticizers are used to soften plastics.  Is that why they are used in bowling balls, or do they help with curing or uniformity?
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Re: what to use when giving the ball bath
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2007, 01:26:45 PM »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer

Looks like plasticizers are used to soften plastics.  Is that why they are used in bowling balls, or do they help with curing or uniformity?


Just that.. to soften it.  I think there is an ideal hardness range for bowling balls to get optimal performance.  Too hard (such as a blue dot), would reduce the amount of friction.  I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe they are also used as "templates" to ensure a pore structure is developed in the ball upon setting of the resin...

OK.  I went back and found the data.  I had taken an "oil-soaked" ball and placed it in my rejevanator.  At the end of the cycle, I pulled it out and it was covered with what appeared to be oil.  I rinsed the ball with pentane to remove all of the liquid on the surface of the ball (and collected all of it).  I evaporated the pentane, leaving behind the liquid.  GC/MS analysis of the liquid showed that NO oil of any sort was present.  The only compound present was:

2,2,4-Trimethyl-1,3-pentanediol diisobutyrate

A quick google search of this finds that this compound is indeed used as a plasticizer.

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