win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???  (Read 2996 times)

TheBowlingKid25

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6133
What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« on: October 05, 2004, 11:57:24 AM »
I got to thinking, me and a_ak57 bowl on a real crap fest shot, and I was wondering what everyone else bowls on? People rag me about being a 170 average bowler, but the truth is, thats about 90% of the people that bowl in our house! Even the coaches and directors of leagues and stuff say that our house SUCKS!!! The difficulty of our house could almost be compared to the difficulty of a sport shot, just a different way of going about playing the shot. The difference is there are actually honor scores shot on sport shots, our house has about 1 800 i believe, and a handfull of 3's. I realized from doing PJBT's, that on a THS/wall I average around 220, though this could also be due to the competitiveness of the tournies, but none the less. So what do you bowl on? I still stick by my belief I would average over 200 on a THS in league.
--------------------
BALLREVIEWS.COM MOD SQUAD! <---member

16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!

 

TheBowlingKid25

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6133
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2004, 08:02:38 PM »
Actually, come to think of it if I dont start sand bagging () Im gonna get stuck in the scratch!!!
--------------------
BALLREVIEWS.COM MOD SQUAD! <---member

16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!

RSalas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4058
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2004, 08:06:36 PM »
A dead wall, where it's impossible to miss the pocket.  I still miss the pocket about a half-dozen times a week, though.  
--------------------
"Dispensing conventional wisdom to a fingertip world."

Horrid in Doubles, torrid in Singles...
...that's The Curse of Dusty.
#TweetYourScores

dirtbikebowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1066
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2004, 08:14:06 PM »
ya my normal leage shot on saturdays is oiled on friday, 2 leages bowl on it that night, then after that is the cosmic and al the kids, then saturday mroning before us liitle kids bowl on it then we finally get it. cool huh?

And the funny thing is its a really nice house, and though must the kids suck some of us good bowlers woudl like a fresh shot.

95% pry dotn knwo what a fresh shot even is though on my leage.
--------------------

Tom Kelleys Pro Shop


TwoFourEightNineNine

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1714
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2004, 08:15:33 PM »
I primarily bowl at Palo Alto Bowl... and I basically bowl on a huge wall.
--------------------
-Jeremy Vitug


It is YOU who decides what happens on the lane.
24899

TonyAshworth

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 5
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2004, 08:16:49 PM »
Just out of interest why is the shot such a "crap fest".  Is it better to average 200+ and have an inflated idea of how good you are or better like you to average 170 on a testing shot and then shoot 210+ in tourneys.  I know which I would prefer, at least you have a true idea of you own abilities.  
Far too often I see "scratch bowlers" who are unable to hit a target more than 1-2 twice in a row.  If you get chance and the lanes aren't too oily try bowling with a plastic ball and see if you can carry or even get the ball to roll in the back end - tells ya an aweful lot about your release.
To all the ones bowling on a wall Try the above playing the oil line - should be perfectly possible to get to the pocket if the block is really that strong.

Edited on 10/5/2004 8:10 PM

TheBowlingKid25

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6133
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2004, 08:30:09 PM »
Well its a crap fest because 1)they're OLD wooden lanes 2)there really isnt a real "pattern", and I say this seriously, the lane man doesnt even know what an oil pattern is. He pushes the buttons and lets it go, I kid you not. 3) Its heavy outside of 10, so anything that gets swung out there stays there, its dry inside that, so anything pulled goes through the nose/jersey. For some reason though, if you throw up the boards, all of a sudden nothing hangs and shoots right out across the lane. It still confuses me, so normally I just swing my triple X, seems to work ok to get it out in the oil.
--------------------
BALLREVIEWS.COM MOD SQUAD! <---member

16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!

TheBowlingKid25

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6133
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2004, 08:31:34 PM »
My main point was just to see what everyone bowled on, to see if I compare to the 200+ average bowlers, or if they actually average that on a difficult shot.
--------------------
BALLREVIEWS.COM MOD SQUAD! <---member

16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!

TheBowlingKid25

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6133
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2004, 08:32:42 PM »
Another thing I find funny is that a friend of mine averages like high 180's-low 190's on the shot I bowl on, yet you put him on a THS, and he's lost, doesnt know what to do with himself. It baffles me.
--------------------
BALLREVIEWS.COM MOD SQUAD! <---member

16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!

smitty8288

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 178
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2004, 09:54:32 PM »
i bowl in three houses. 1. total synthetics and it is a flood. 2. is a combination and it veries from medium light to medium heavy oil.(sport shot league) 3. this house is old wooden lanes that is completely burnt by the 6th frame of the first game! im thinking about quitting the league in the third house.

a_ak57

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10584
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2004, 10:11:23 PM »
just to emphasize his point.............We went to a sport shot tourney.  By the third game, I actually had to ask someone if it really was a sport shot, because it was nothing harder than what I was used to.

There is definitely something wrong with that.

But I pretty much have the thoughts of Tony Ashworth there.......I'll actually miss bowling the messed up shot and moving on to adult bumper bowling and losing any real talent...
--------------------
ANDY
There is doing in not doing what you weren't doing but doing in what you weren't doing to do what you were doing but not doing and doing as well

So don't do it!

htotheizzo3561

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 962
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2004, 10:15:04 PM »
Monday- Medium hardness with out of bounds
Thursday- Easy, the whole lane is yours!!
Friday- The house claims it's hard, but its easy
Sunday- Reverse block with oil and no backend, real fun, not.

MSC2471

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2080
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 11:46:52 PM »
Mondays: Biggest wall of China you could ever want to see. If you know how to get the ball outside of 10 board at the breakpoint, you will hit the hole. I'm at 222 in this house after a month and probably 40th in terms of average. I won't be surprised to see at least 3 or 4 people average 240 for the year if they keep the conditions the same all season.

Tuesdays: Reverse block with medium to low back end action. Forget about playing outside of 10 if you are a lefty, and the righties complain because their oil breaks down quick on their side. I'm at 186 so far after 6 weeks in our league.

For tournaments I rarely see the Monday shot, occasionally see the Tuesday shot and can face everything from sport shots, floods and bone dry conditions. I would say overall my average would be around 205-210 in a given year of bowling.

Matt

RSalas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4058
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2004, 11:59:17 PM »
quote:
I primarily bowl at Palo Alto Bowl


Say hi to Dave Hewitt for me.  
--------------------
"Dispensing conventional wisdom to a fingertip world."

Horrid in Doubles, torrid in Singles...
...that's The Curse of Dusty.
#TweetYourScores

Smash49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2136
Re: What type of condition do you actually bowl on???
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 12:07:04 AM »
The house I normally bowl out of had the Ray Charles shot for most of the summer.  The good news is that they run a different pattern for me when I practice.  Most of the time they lay the Jr. Gold shot down for us to practice on.  TNBA ate the house shot alive.  They say they are having machine problems now.  The shot breaks down real hard and is different.  The other house I bowl at has taken bowling over the 2nd arrow completely out of play.  A bummer for some people.  I've been playing up 3 there and around the oil.  One house is wood and the other synthetic.  Doesn't matter to me.  I'd bowl on astroturf.  

Smash49

--------------------
Smash49
robert@bowlersslidesock.com
Bowler's Slide Sock: Simply the finest slide product on the planet!  This sock will make you want to throw everything else away!
www.bowlersslidesock.com
Top 100 Coaches by Bowler's Journal International 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012!  Outstanding Coach in the state of Texas by Bowler's Journal International 2006.
IBPSIA Certified Pro Shop Technician
SLSM Designs Bowling Accessories.
www.bowlersslidesock.com