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What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« on: February 01, 2012, 05:54:02 AM »
  Im doing a project in the shop and I can't remember what the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball ever created was?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2012, 08:46:56 PM »
I think the issue with the Phantom series were, they were very speed sensitive, as well as very difficult to lay out or understand properly for the time. As you stated, it is somewhat common knowledge now for the most part, as well as track flare on the urethanes still did not create that dynamic a reaction.

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2012, 06:46:07 PM »
Has anyone looked at the Columbia Vector 1 and 2 (sometime in the 80's)?  I believe they had the standard top puck with a vertically turned puck in the center.  I think this would qualify as asymmetrical.

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2012, 07:27:27 PM »
Has anyone looked at the Columbia Vector 1 and 2 (sometime in the 80's)?  I believe they had the standard top puck with a vertically turned puck in the center.  I think this would qualify as asymmetrical.

The Vectors are symmetrical , they just had the puck lowered closer to the center of ball.

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2012, 12:31:37 AM »
I have a RH JPF Black Axe second or third drill... I can't remember.  If anybody is interested in buying it, shoot me a pm.

I always thought The Axe was the first based on patents.


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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2012, 02:34:05 AM »
My money is on the Black Axe from JPF i remeber reading a bowling article sometime in the last five years
that stated the Black Axe as being the first Asym
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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2013, 09:27:08 PM »
No doubt about it. It was The Ultra Angle by A M F. I remember a member of the (then) A B C research staff saying this would be the last major core redesign permitted. Boy was he ever wrong! This was the first ball that had a flared track because of the core.
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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2013, 08:07:52 AM »
The Ultra Angle had a core that was shaped like a cork in a bottle of wine.  It was a little wider at the bottom than it was at the top.  It was a symmetrical core, not asymmetrical.  The JPF Axe Urethane was definitely the first asymmetrical.  The Eureka Tank was out around the time of the Phantom/Axe as well and it was also an assymetrical.

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2013, 05:09:46 PM »
release date of the Axe... 01/07/91

phantom black... 12/10/90

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2013, 05:32:08 PM »
I stand corrected

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2013, 06:22:27 PM »
Not sure about definitions of asymmetric, but I never thought a ball had to be asymmetric to have track flare, just some differential.  Ultra Angle was one of the first balls to have noticeable track flare, but it was never advertised as asymmetric. 

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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2013, 11:49:32 PM »
Well, accordingly to Mo Pinel all balls are assymmetrical once holes are drilled. So, I would have to say the first ball ever drilled.


http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/9/9c/Truth_About_Drilled_Balls_Seminar.pdf
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Re: What was the 1st asymmetrical bowling ball made?
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2013, 03:38:04 AM »
Any older bowling balk that the core wasn't placed in perfectly is going to be asymmetric by definition whether intentional or not.

 The Brunswick Power Groove series is very much an accidental outcome  that varies ball to ball. I have four undrilled PGs recently checked and the pin showed to be on average 1" or more from where it was marked because of the location of the hockey puc cores inside and the creation of a psa/mb.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.