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Baboon

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Intentional Fouls
« on: February 16, 2009, 05:29:28 AM »
I assume there's a rule about this, but:

Is it illegal to intentionally foul after leaving a big split, allowing yourself to shoot at a full rack for your spare?

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BrianCRX90

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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2009, 06:30:17 PM »
Let me get this straight...I mean unless you throw it 6 miles an hour how the hell are you going to really be able to tell if you get a split or not. Just because it goes through the nose or light and wide may not necessarily get a split. I would laugh at the person that tried that and then ended up getting all 10 to fall just to find out he just fouled. Lol.
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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2009, 07:07:09 PM »
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Let me get this straight...I mean unless you throw it 6 miles an hour how the hell are you going to really be able to tell if you get a split or not. Just because it goes through the nose or light and wide may not necessarily get a split. I would laugh at the person that tried that and then ended up getting all 10 to fall just to find out he just fouled. Lol.

ummmm, if comes off your hand bad, or you pull it....     DUH!!!!
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huskerfan711

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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2009, 02:52:38 AM »
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i think i will respectfully disagree with this rule, not the people stating it. i think if you intentionally foul you should get zero for the shot and get a full rack just like any other frame. it should be able to be apart of your strategy to win a tournament or game or whatever
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Wow...no.

If you get rid of this rule, you make the big 4, pocket 7-10s, 8-10s, etc, obsolete. Anyone who leaves a big four standing just fouls and goes -/ instead of 62.

This rule is totally necessary.
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Actually... its in the USBC rule book somewhere (too lazy, too late right now) that once the ball hits the pins that if the foul device is triggered... it doesn't matter.

Basically... fouls do not exist once the ball hits the pins
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Robadat

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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2009, 06:27:12 AM »
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i think i will respectfully disagree with this rule, not the people stating it. i think if you intentionally foul you should get zero for the shot and get a full rack just like any other frame. it should be able to be apart of your strategy to win a tournament or game or whatever
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greatest accomplishment:shooting 603 and not shooting one 200 game(130,173,300)...lol
p.s. go leftys


Wow...no.

If you get rid of this rule, you make the big 4, pocket 7-10s, 8-10s, etc, obsolete. Anyone who leaves a big four standing just fouls and goes -/ instead of 62.

This rule is totally necessary.
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Actually... its in the USBC rule book somewhere (too lazy, too late right now) that once the ball hits the pins that if the foul device is triggered... it doesn't matter.

Basically... fouls do not exist once the ball hits the pins
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That's incorrect.
from Bowl.com Rulebook,

Rule 5a. Definition
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 5a. Definition
 

A foul occurs when a part of the player’s body encroaches on or goes beyond the foul line and touches any part of the lane, equipment or building during or after a delivery. A ball is in play after a delivery until the same or another player is on the approach in position to make a succeeding delivery.

The certification and inspection committee of a local association can require that the foul line be plainly marked on the walls, posts, division boards or any other structure in a bowling center on a line with the regular foul line.

 

When a foul is recorded the delivery counts, but the player is not credited with any pins knocked down by that delivery. (See Rule 6b.)

 

NOTE:  The foul line is of infinite length including walls, flooring, posts and ball returns. A foul is not committed when foreign objects such as pens, jewelry, coins, cigarettes, etc., drop from a bowler’s pocket or fall from a person’s body or clothing. (Footwear and clothing are considered part of the body.) A player should request permission to cross the foul line to retrieve any items that have fallen beyond the foul line.


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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2009, 06:44:02 AM »
In the European Men Championship 2005, one bowler made a very bad mistake. I really don't recall his name or nationality, but couple of minutes after he rolled his 12th strike, while he was "enjoying" his triumph, he deliberately step on the foul line!

As Robadat stated above, according to the rule, either he had to step down from the approach, or some other bowler must have rolled a ball next to him to call his shot is ended. But, as you may understand, no body rolled any ball after his and he had not step down from the approach till that moment!

So, although couple of minutes had passed from his shot, it was called violation of the foul rule and he received 0 count for the last shot!

"Intentionally" 290 with 12 strikes! Nice
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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2009, 08:48:53 AM »
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LOL If that rule were to be changed then all that would need to be done is the house turning off the foul lights so then you have no choise but to shoot at the split. Most houses by me will give you a zero if you try to reset the rack on a 2nd ball because of the program that is being used.
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not sure what you are saying .. but a foul is a foul regardless of whether or not the buzzer goes off...

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Re: Intentional Fouls
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 07:57:32 PM »
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Let me get this straight...I mean unless you throw it 6 miles an hour how the hell are you going to really be able to tell if you get a split or not. Just because it goes through the nose or light and wide may not necessarily get a split. I would laugh at the person that tried that and then ended up getting all 10 to fall just to find out he just fouled. Lol.

ummmm, if comes off your hand bad, or you pull it....     DUH!!!!


Wow, either you can predict the future or you throw it 6 miles an hour! DUH!!!!
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