Author Topic: Why are high rg balls giving me better control than low rg balls? (Read 1499 times)

louie · « **on:** September 24, 2003, 01:25:21 AM »

Since I've started reving the ball up a lot more I've noticed a lot of over under problems with my lower rg stuff. If I get it into the dry to early it overhooks. It also isn't giving me hold area if I pull the ball. I've also tried an Impact zone which is fairly high rg. That ball seems to give me a lot more area. It recovers when sent wide and holds the line if I pull it a bit. If I hit the dry early it is still high but 4 pin high not big 4 high.
Is this a typical reaction for a higher rev player? Should I look for high rg balls now or is this just an anomally? All balls tested were drilled pin next to ring finger cg in span.
Thanx!
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HamPster · « **Reply #1 on:** September 24, 2003, 04:32:23 PM »

Lower rg balls start rolling earlier, and tend to be more even rolling. If you have a wall or shorter pattern, they're either going to move early or move late or maybe not at all. Higher rg balls allow the ball to get down the lane better, and don't really roll much unless the coverstock hits some dry to get it revving. That's why low rg balls are control balls and are recommended for use on sport patterns where you need an even rolling ball that's not going to be as sensitive as the high rg balls would be. Lower rg balls tend to be more core controlled, and higher rg balls tend to be more coverstock controlled.
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Phillip Marlowe · « **Reply #2 on:** September 24, 2003, 05:37:35 PM »

I tend to agree with you. The reason is fairly simple: many of the low RG balls are matched with an aggressive, shiny cover, meaning that the cover fights the core, leading -- for higher rev, lower speed players especially -- to over unders. I have noticed this problem with the Inferno, the Revmaster, to a lesser extent the Throttle-R (because of the coverstock) and any number of balls combining lower RG with a pearl coverstock. Lots of folks love this type of ball, but with your speed and revs, this may not be the best choice.

I personally prefer higher RG and higher differential balls, for the most part. Get down the lane, make an aggressive move and the core doesn't fight the cover, for the most part, in these balls.
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Edited on 9/24/2003 6:04 PM

charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** September 24, 2003, 09:25:04 PM »

Watch the generalizations, guys! There are sooooo many, many variables these days and we recognize and deal with them day to day.

Louie,

Believe me I understand where you're coming from; been there, done that.

I ask,
please consider adjusting your original statement to include the concept of time and quantity: "of the balls you have tried so far, it seems that the higher Rg balls suit your game better." Honestly, there are so many factors, we need a database bigger than our brain to reference as we talk and type about all these balls AND their drillings. Remember drillings (pin position) can raise or lower the initial RG and change the flare potential of every ball we play with.

Mr. Marlowe and I have had several discussions on this topic. I used to love Columbia's higher RG balls and all pearlized. Lately, lower RG balls seem to suit me. Tehn I drill Low Rg balls with the pin over th ebridge to raise the RG .... I emphasize the word, "Seem".

What suits me seems to change with every new ball and new technology development: particle pearls, Soaker coverstocks, pearl/solid combos or resin and particle, Accelerator coverstocks, Activator coverstocks, and on and on ...
Maybe it does for you also. We want to pigeon-hole our needs and wants but it's not always possible. Trying to do so may limit your options, like the people who insist on using only the balls from a single ball company. It's nice, it's easy, it's convenient, we don't have to think, but it's not always the right thing to do.

I know I've resolved nothing and opened "more cans of potential worms", but such is life.
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louie · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2003, 09:46:07 PM »

Thanx to all who have replied. Keep the ideas coming! My personal feeling is that the low rg stuff is reading the dry to early. This is causing a loss of area because this is a fairly short xmas tree pattern. If I'm wide early it reads the dry outside to soon and overhooks. If I pull the ball into the oil the pattern is so short that the ball hits the strong backends and ends up high. This makes a good shot necessary to hit the pocket with the low rg stuff. The extra couple of feet the higher rg stuff goes before it reads the dry helps to keep the ball right for me and even provides better recovery when I miss wide right. These are freshly oiled lanes with great head oil and then a taper to 36 feet. The outsides are very dry and the backends are clean.(synthetic lanes) In houses with sloppier backends or longer patterns, the lower rg stuff works fine but so does the higher rg stuff.
What do you guys think?
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louie

charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2003, 09:58:52 PM »

Louie,

One more thought before I'm ignored altogether:
What about low RG balls with very mild covers, like the V2 Dry. (That's the only one I can think of right now.) Oh, the AMF Valor/P, & Pirhana.
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Edited on 9/24/2003 10:08 PM

louie · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2003, 05:35:33 AM »

Charlest,
I haven't tried any of those balls. The differential on those 3 are so low, little flare can be expected. I like a ball that flares at least 3 inches because my track is so high it clips the middle finger hole.
Thanx
The lower rg balls I've tried are the Rhino fxi (scream R with a polished powerkoil 17 solid cover), Vortex 1, and an Adrenaline.
I've had better success at this house with an Impact zone and a Green messenger.
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