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tommyboy74

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When a league pattern blows up completely...
« on: August 28, 2013, 11:17:34 PM »
So week 1 is now in the books, and I got off to a good start.  However, I think I saw one of the quickest transitions in a long time.  For example, I started throwing 10-4 with my Critical Theory (around 19mph), and had a very nice line in game 1.  Game 2, went down to my Outlaw, maintained a good look through the 4th frame. 

That's when hell started for everyone.  Basically the pattern was playing very flat, so most everyone had played somewhat inside, while 1 of my teammates played out, and I played further out.   By the end of the night, I ended up finishing out at 30-10, throwing around 22mph (according to the lane radar) and using my Frantic.  Regardless of what I threw, the ball was hooking way too much.

Even more interesting, some people switched to plastic, which also was hooking way more than it should. 

With that being said, here is a fun question.  Has anyone ever experienced a pattern where the lanes blew up very quickly?  And if you have, what did you to do stay successful?

As for me, I ended up having to loft the ball to take some of the heads out of play and really amp up my speed.  At least my spare game wasn't bad.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 11:19:10 PM by tommyboy74 »
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 12:21:42 AM »
Maybe it played flat, but I highly doubt it was. You've got guys playing all over the place on something that was probably over-walled to begin with. Thus making the lanes even more wet/dry.

My advice, stopping clawing on the ball and relax your hand and rotate through it. Playing "30-10" at 22 mph sounds like a lot of muscle being used.
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2013, 04:02:45 AM »
wood or synthetic?
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2013, 05:15:41 AM »
My Friday night every week. The lanes seem to blow up in a hurry and you down ball 2-3 balls and move left 15 boards over the last two games. Last year I averaged 228 for the first game all year but only ended at 208. Don't ask about game 3. Lol
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 07:42:32 AM »
It's probably walled up to begin with, but nobody pays attention to the equipment they use.  Critical Theory to start out?  Sounds like a lot of ball for a house shot.  Yeah the lanes might contribute to the breakdown a bit, but if everybody is throwing sponges, of course they're going to hell pretty quickly. 

Last several years, we've bowled on tracked out Laneshield.  You can go from a solid pocket shot to a big 4 the very next time on that lane, it goes in a hurry.  Once everybody figured out not to use big hooking equipment though, it fixed a lot of the problems.  Don't line up with your absolute best look the first game, play for the transition.  I'd rather go 240-240-240 than 270-220-170. 
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 10:03:05 AM »
First rule of thumb on lane conditions.  THS shots break down and get tougher, flat tournament patterns track and open up.  What you describe is a little extreme, but part of the issue is the way you play the wall shot, and how many heavy handed guys are bowling on it.  10 out to 4 is really hooking it.  With what I expect is you have a very high rev rate and axis rotation, and are going to need a lot more in the middle, and it isn't going to hold up. 

It may get better as the weather cools down from summer heat.  However, long term, your style probably doesn't lend itself to being versatile.  This is not a big problem if you pretty much limit yourself to league bowling on house shots.   

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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2013, 11:34:52 AM »

I bowl a second shift league every week, and my advice is to keep your speed normal and KILL THE HAND.  Weaker covers will help, too. 

There comes a point when the lanes get so dry that revs really don't help you as much as they hurt you.  Imagine the ball "floating" through the front half of the lane, then all you need is a little rotation.  Let the ball hook instead of making it hook...


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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2013, 11:58:47 AM »
I would say the heat is a big factor. If it's humid, the oil seems to get spotty. But that could just be the desert here in Texas. . .

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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2013, 02:17:02 PM »
Urethane/urethane pearl. I bowl on some very dry conditions where the weakest reactive ball hooks a lot. Starting game one playing 25 to 10 with a Slingshot or Stike King. At any time I can move to up 10 with my Groove Urethane or Avalanche pearl urethane and it is like bowling on a very fresh shot.

If you try moving right with reactive it hooks off your hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylplbarn8GQ


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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2013, 02:23:54 PM »
The weather plays a big part .
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2013, 02:31:18 PM »
Lol you call that dry?  Can play 2nd arrow with a house ball at our place. 

Urethane/urethane pearl. I bowl on some very dry conditions where the weakest reactive ball hooks a lot. Starting game one playing 25 to 10 with a Slingshot or Stike King. At any time I can move to up 10 with my Groove Urethane or Avalanche pearl urethane and it is like bowling on a very fresh shot.

If you try moving right with reactive it hooks off your hand.

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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2013, 04:29:08 PM »
It's probably walled up to begin with, but nobody pays attention to the equipment they use.  Critical Theory to start out?  Sounds like a lot of ball for a house shot.  Yeah the lanes might contribute to the breakdown a bit, but if everybody is throwing sponges, of course they're going to hell pretty quickly. 

Last several years, we've bowled on tracked out Laneshield.  You can go from a solid pocket shot to a big 4 the very next time on that lane, it goes in a hurry.  Once everybody figured out not to use big hooking equipment though, it fixed a lot of the problems.  Don't line up with your absolute best look the first game, play for the transition.  I'd rather go 240-240-240 than 270-220-170. 

The only reason that I started with the Critical Theory is that I didn't like the reaction I was getting from the Outlaw or Frantic.  Normally at this house, I start with one of those 2 balls and then make minor moves as needed throughout the night.  Last night just ended up being very unusual with how the lanes played.

In the second game, I moved in with the Frantic and speed, moving in, and taking some hand out helped me have a better night than many of the others.  Carry was tough, but I ended up with makeable spares and that's what got me through the night.
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2013, 04:33:55 PM »
wood or synthetic?

These were AMF SPL that have been around for several years.
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2013, 11:49:27 PM »
Lol you call that dry?  Can play 2nd arrow with a house ball at our place. 

Urethane/urethane pearl. I bowl on some very dry conditions where the weakest reactive ball hooks a lot. Starting game one playing 25 to 10 with a Slingshot or Stike King. At any time I can move to up 10 with my Groove Urethane or Avalanche pearl urethane and it is like bowling on a very fresh shot.

If you try moving right with reactive it hooks off your hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylplbarn8GQ


Really?  So a urethane house ball with pancake weight block? That would be the same ball as a  urethane Groove I'm refering too. The AVP is about 5 boards stronger. I'm sure you already figured that....
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Re: When a league pattern blows up completely...
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2013, 07:04:42 AM »
Nope, plastic house balls with nothing inside.  Lay it down on 12, cross 2nd arrow, out to about 5 and snap back.  Really crispy there.  Used to play almost 4th arrow with an Avalanche Pearl a few years ago. 

Lol you call that dry?  Can play 2nd arrow with a house ball at our place. 

Urethane/urethane pearl. I bowl on some very dry conditions where the weakest reactive ball hooks a lot. Starting game one playing 25 to 10 with a Slingshot or Stike King. At any time I can move to up 10 with my Groove Urethane or Avalanche pearl urethane and it is like bowling on a very fresh shot.

If you try moving right with reactive it hooks off your hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylplbarn8GQ


Really?  So a urethane house ball with pancake weight block? That would be the same ball as a  urethane Groove I'm refering too. The AVP is about 5 boards stronger. I'm sure you already figured that....
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