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When you hear about an area producing top notch bowlers is the reason that area has talent is because,

a. Competitive bowling producing those high level players.

b. Is there also an element of Excellent Coaching in that area too.

I see communities where competitive bowling is thriving, and you usually see very good players in those communities. Add the element of a top notch coach, and I think that area becomes producer of top quality bowlers for today's modern game.

With the complexity of this sport, the patterns, ball covers and cores, I think it would be way too overwhelming for a young talented bowler to take in unless they had some high quality coaching, pointing them in a positive direction.

My definition of coaching is not just someone certified. A coach can be current or previous PBA or College Player. Someone with knowledge and ability to coach this great and complex game.

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avabob

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Re: Talent and Excellent Coaching are they together in today's bowling?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 06:13:10 PM »
There is so much more knowledge out there today than 30 years ago it is amazing.  Even without top notch formal coaches, I think there are a lot of old guys like me who can and do try to help impart that knowledge to younger bowlers.  If there are also good coaches available, all the better.  No substitute for talent and desire however. 

Gene J Kanak

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Re: Talent and Excellent Coaching are they together in today's bowling?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 11:53:45 AM »
Obviously, if you can pair top-level talent with the expertise of top-flight coaching, you'll produce a very, very competitive player. However, you have to have the talent in the first place.

I had the chance to work with expert coaches when I worked for USBC. They helped me to improve, but they didn't transform me into a world-class player. That's because I never had have enough natural talent to get to that level. They took me further than I could've gone on my own, but they couldn't transform me into more than my ability level can allow.

So, you either need to be exposed to great coaching from the very beginning so that they can build your game up from scratch, or you need to already have the ability inside of you. Even the world's best coach can't take a player with no ability and turn him or her into a superstar. They can only take them as far as their talent allows them to go. Think of it like Charles Barkley's golf game.

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Re: Talent and Excellent Coaching are they together in today's bowling?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 12:58:33 PM »
Obviously, if you can pair top-level talent with the expertise of top-flight coaching, you'll produce a very, very competitive player. However, you have to have the talent in the first place.

I had the chance to work with expert coaches when I worked for USBC. They helped me to improve, but they didn't transform me into a world-class player. That's because I never had have enough natural talent to get to that level. They took me further than I could've gone on my own, but they couldn't transform me into more than my ability level can allow.

So, you either need to be exposed to great coaching from the very beginning so that they can build your game up from scratch, or you need to already have the ability inside of you. Even the world's best coach can't take a player with no ability and turn him or her into a superstar. They can only take them as far as their talent allows them to go. Think of it like Charles Barkley's golf game.

Well said.

When I read this yesterday, I was thinking of two different extremes: Someone like Kristina Frahm (I believe the name is right), where she coached Maryland Eastern Shore (same team that Anggie Ramirez and T'Nia Falbo came from) the year after she bowled on that team (her last year of collegiate eligibility).. Falbo and Ramirez are now on the PWBA tour.. All were coached and coached well, plus came up through those ranks.

Then on the opposite side of the ledger, you have a Michelle Feldman, who came straight out of juniors and stormed on the tour. I'm not entirely sure of the coaching she had up in Skaneateles, but for her to do what she did on the tour, I'd say that 90% of that was pure talent, with the rest being coaching.

Neither are mutually inclusive or exclusive, so you can have one without the other and still have a huge impact on the game.

BL.