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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: mumzie on May 06, 2008, 04:44:28 PM
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I have bowled in a true recreational league this year. Tonight was our last night (finally), and I saw something I've never seen before.
A woman started bowling last year, and booked 83. This year she finished with 100. Great improvement - no question. And she really enjoys herself. She has a 1 step approach, and throws the ball lefty
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She uses one ball for the strike ball (a 10 or 11 pound plastic Maxim), and another ball for her spares (a Vis-A-Ball).
Who in the world sold her those balls? And why????
Wow.
If it matters - hubby averages 123.
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It depends on which order she bought the balls I suppose. If the got the maxim first, she probably got the vis-a-ball because she likes it and figures that she's got two balls she may as well use both. Does she know there's no real difference between them?
I'm a great believer in people getting their own equipment as soon as possible (although just the one ball, usually) I think that bowling with house balls for more than a couple of months is going to massively reduce any chance you ever had of using good technique.
Good Luck to her I say, as long as she enjoys it and can afford it 
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I have a 3-ball bag. I carry my 3 main strike balls in there, and my spare ball. Honestly, in league I just use one of the strike balls because in a 3-game set on fresh oil I can stay with the same ball and move only 2 boards max. One of those balls I never use on fresh oil because it's a polished ball and I won't get enough reaction out of it since we have a 39-40 foot Medium-Heavy THS. The over/under on it is pretty bad too so I use it more in practice or shorter patterns where I'm guaranteed enough movement. I have another strike ball that's a pound lighter but I only take it to tournaments in case they put a pattern down that calls for it.
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Mumzie -
To answer the question in the title of the post:
There are 3 times when a bowler has too much equipment ...
1.) When the spouse complains.
2.) When you physically run out of space for all of your bowling supplies and equipment.
3.) When you go broke buying bowling supplies and equipment.



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When a bowler arrives at the bowling center and is completely "winded" from lugging all his equipment from his/her car and doesn't have enough energy to bowl the first game.
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THS and almost always the same house: Two balls are enough... on strong and one weak... plus spareball
when you wander and get to see more different patterns imho three to four balls should do plus spareball if needed.
I carry a 2+1 arsenal meaning 2 reactives plus my XXXL as spare/dry lane ball.
for it is enough.
But I know the guys that come with their 4 ball roller to house leageu... take out every ball... but all of them all over the place so you cannot sit anywhere anymore... and when they play all of them (of course they do!) all roll equal as all are drilled to roll this way.
its like they play the same ball just in another color... ROFL
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i have 8 balls right now. 2 of them are not fitted for me yet. i only bring 4 balls to league and one is plastic. heavy oiler, burnt-dry lanes, and something with backend, plus my plastic spare. sometimes going to different houses or tournaments i might switch out one or two of them. i never bring more than four, just kind of constantly rotate them out if needed.
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When does a bowler have too much equipment?
When said bowler doesn't know how to use any of them. That means you could have 100 and provided you also have a clue, thats fine. But, if a bowler has 2 and scare the same spot twice on the lane then that bowler has too many.
We have a guy that brings 6 to league. I bring 3(including plastic) and usually use 1, but occasionally use the alternate. Every once in awhile I just bring plastic and use it.
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but i think sometimes all the different equipment just totally confuses him.
From the bowler's perspective, that's when he has too many. Might be two or three balls, might be 10 balls. Tommy Jones might be able to keep up with which of 15 balls (probably 15 of the same thing, too) is appropriate, I can't.
From the non-bowler's (especially spouse's) perspective, I think Dan's got it.
SH
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I have 8 that I travel with. On my Friday night THS I bring 4. 2 solid reactives drilled different, a pearl particle and spare. Our shot is fairly heavy and depending on which team you bowl determines our carry down. The rest I take to Travel League or Tournaments where I don't know what I am going to bowl on or where I know that there is going to be significant break down in the 2nd or 3rd shifts.
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When they bring six to the same house they've bowled at for 3+ years with little to no change in pattern for as THS league.
4 is almost too many.
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It depends on the bowler, you have to know and understand your equipment. If you have to think too hard on which ball to use, you probably have too many. Usually for a THS league, I'll bring 4 because I have a 4-ball bag and most weeks I use just 1 or 2 of them. The other ones are there for a just in case scenario. For the PBA experience league on new Pro Anvilane that I'm bowling this summer, I'll probably bring more until I figure out which ones are going to work on the patterns.
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When you start pricing semi's w/48' trailers in order to get your stuff from home to the lanes.
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When you don't understand all your equipment you have too much.
If you show up with 8 balls, and you know exactly what each of the 8 balls does, and exactly what each little difference in the ball makes, then its fine. If you can do that with 20 balls its fine.
When a woman who has a 100 average, has a Maxim for strikes, and Vis-A-Ball for spares, thats too many as IIRC not only do neither of them have a real core like the XXXL, but she would not be good enough to understand the difference anyway.
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When you have to take out a small loan just to put fresh finger inserts i your equipment, you MAY have too many.
Just to get my stuff ready for our summer sport leagues, it is going to take over $100 worth of finger and thumb inserts, not to mention surface adjustments.
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Depends 2 balls for some bowlers is too much, I have a 160 average friend that screws himself up with 4-6 balls a night. He hooks the whole lane but never has a clue how to play straighter, his hooking power is crazy but he is one of the worst spare shooters i have ever watched.
If he makes 1-2 10 pins a night it was a good night, I have worked and worked with him how to kill the ball but he even hooks plastic about 10-15 boards. I finally gave up and just watch him flag easy stuff and just dont worry about it, who cares it is a handicap league.
I have at least 230 balls and yes it is insanity at it's finest, it is just too hard too part with stuff that works. OCD has got me by the horns to be nice.
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Mumzie -
To answer the question in the title of the post:
There are 3 times when a bowler has too much equipment ...
1.) When the spouse complains.
2.) When you physically run out of space for all of your bowling supplies and equipment.
3.) When you go broke buying bowling supplies and equipment.



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3) Almost there. Thank GW for the tax stimulus!
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when a bowler walks into league with 2 4 ball bags for avery easy ths. we have a guy on monday night that averages about 205 and brings 8 balls every week and uses just about all of the every week. i'm not ripping on the guy or anything because he's not a bad bowler, but i think sometimes all the different equipment just totally confuses him. oh yea..he also bowls once a week and hardly ever bowls tournaments. i'm as big a ball w hore as anyone, but i think he would be better off bringing maybe 2 and his spare ball..anyone else know anyone like this
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Not that bad, but we got a guy (lefty, 185 Ave.) that brings six, and no spare ball. He plays the same line (down 2nd arrow) all night and will just switch balls when he doesn't carry.
I really drive him nuts because I constantly play across his line and it really screws up his shot.
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I bowl regionals when I can and right now, I have 18 balls for different conditions sitting in my storage room. I'll bring one and plastic for league. Its to the point when I open my bag and I can't see the label, I'll say "now what the heck is this ball?" I get alot of them used from Ritchie Allen, his dad runs the bowling alley I work at, so that helps.
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never! lateral moves only help so much, but a ball change can make a big difference.
example:
tonight, 4 man teams, everyone but me was a down & in player. by end of first, 10-gutter was just about gone. not one guy, including my team changed balls, they just kept going high, brooklyng, too much speed etc. i tried to tell them, but they just told me they would keep moving left. i laughed and changed balls and wheeled it to that dry bumper and shoot 266, 246. shoot 702 with a 190 first game. oh, by the way, i bring 5 balls. and when i saw the line in practice everyone was using, i pulled out my heavy oiler and threw it up the gut to help them out during practice
.....that was nice of me to do that
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My 4 ball roller always goes with me, it is my only bag. But i might onlyuse 2 balls but i am ready in case. Sometimes it is only 3 of my balls and one that is my wifes.
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I currently have 6 balls and most nights I use 1 ball plus my spare ball I have a 3 ball bag with a Joey. On a few nights I have thrown 2 or 3 balls when I struggled to carry. As long as I am not tripping over someone's equipment I don't care how many balls they have.
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two plastic balls....one pretty and one not so pretty for single pins is just right for this person!
For me.....many more when I'm bowling bad. When I'm bowling good just two also.
The right strike ball and my spare ball.
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS BUT how can one be sure if he is bringing the right strike ball if the oil guy is not sure if he put his oil in his beer...or his beer in the oil machine?
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Usually I bring two to league (1 reactive + XXXL)
Last week the centre changed the pattern (now longer and heavier) and I was caught out. Couldn't get my Twisted to read.
I will bring 3 x reactive + XXXL this week and see what pattern the centre is putting down.
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I usually bring two strike balls and one spare ball to league as well. Regarding this question, I don't think a bowler can ever have to many bowling balls because the bowler buys the balls themselves in most cases, so if they are putting out the cash and want to buy 2 balls or 20 balls does it really matter?
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I HATE bowlers that use a different ball for spares and can't make spares most of the time with it.
People like this is why I stopped bringing spare balls because there is no space for decent bowlers like myself so I learned to make spares with my strike ball. Damn those types of bowlers
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When does a bowler have too much equipment?
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