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Aloarjr810

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When should you have to bowl your best?
« on: January 19, 2009, 12:17:38 AM »
Over at bowlingboards.com there's a interesting thread about PBA members bowling in USBC tournament's and soft shots. And how it's not fair that PBA card holders can bowl against amateurs.From a bowler with a 211 ave. who shot 769 (Don't know if thats scr. or hdcp.) and lost in the hdcp brackets to a "Pro".

Here's a link to the thread "USBC Contact (That will Listen!!!)"
http://www.bowlingboards.com/showthread.php?t=1697

In part of one of the posts it was said.

"Everyone should have a chance in brackets without having to bowl their best series ever to win."

So the question is

When should you have to bowl your best?
or When shouldn't you?

I think that when you bowl in "Competition" against another bowler or another team. You should have to bowl your best to win, not come in and just "bowl your average".
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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2009, 08:27:58 AM »
You should always bowl your best.  In the situation at hand, I think it's just sour grapes and more typical whiney bowlers that think they should be guaranteed wins for just being there.  How many other sports are amateurs allowed to compete alongside the Pro's?  Does your co-ed softball team get to play the Cubs (no, because they'd probably beat the Cubs! lol ) It's got to be in perspective.

1) It's a handicap tourney where the pro's are already giving up pins

2) It's on an "easy" house-shot pattern.  Any 200+ avg bowler can get hot in that situation and put up big numbers - putting the pro's at an even greater potential disadvantage.

3) If bowlers supported the Pro's more (viewership/attendance at events) to drive up the market price for professional bowling, maybe the jackpots would be large enough at Pro events that they didn't need to go out in search of what Big Ern would call "Supplemental Income".

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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2009, 08:47:18 AM »
Always........
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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2009, 03:28:57 PM »
From the first frame until the last frame, no matter who your opponent is.
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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 03:43:23 PM »
I always tried to do my best every time.
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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 07:45:55 AM »
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Everyone should have a chance in brackets without having to bowl their best series ever to win


I think what this actually means is this:
Everyone should have a chance in brackets without having to bowl their personal best series ever.

He seems to be complaining that in order to stand a chance of winning, a player has to post a personal best. I think any other reading of that particular phrase (unless it's been taken woefully out of context) speaks more to the agenda of the interpreter than to the one who uttered it.
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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 08:30:44 AM »
Brian Himmler... deadly accurate

I'm lost.

IMO he knew the pros were there to bowl and enter brackets and he entered anyway. If he thought it wasn't fair he shouldn't have entered, but he did and is only complaining because he lost in the finals.
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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 09:41:11 AM »
quote:
quote:
Everyone should have a chance in brackets without having to bowl their best series ever to win


I think what this actually means is this:
Everyone should have a chance in brackets without having to bowl their personal best series ever.

He seems to be complaining that in order to stand a chance of winning, a player has to post a personal best. I think any other reading of that particular phrase (unless it's been taken woefully out of context) speaks more to the agenda of the interpreter than to the one who uttered it.
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At any tournament, why wouldn't a bowler assume that the field will be stacked with talent?  Who would logically think that a tournament, filled with competitive bowlers, would be guaranteeing anything for just shooting avg. or a little over?  Thus, if you expect you're going to have to shoot over average to cash, then why wouldn't you also expect that to win you're going to have to post great numbers that would be close to, if not exceeding, your personal best?

I suspect (too lazy to look it up) that 95% or greater of the bowlers that bowl in the National tournament have never shot an 800.  Yet you know, going in, that it will probably take 800+ to win singles.  Why would anyone expect brackets to be any easier?  It's just luck of the draw man... I bet this guy never complains when the draw gives him 3 bowlers who happen to shoot under average against him and he wins.

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Re: When should you have to bowl your best?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 10:23:52 AM »
Someone needs to post the "wambulance" picture over there.

He never said whether or not he was enterted scratch or handicap, but if he's getting pins and bowling on what he says was an extremely soft condition, he has an advantage.  Fling it out there, watch it rip, and rack up scores with the handicap.  

He mentions that he lost to a pro that shot 825 in the bracket games but I'm willing to be the pro doesn't average 275 per game.  The pro shot well above his average, he deserves the win.
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