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trash heap

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When someone quits a team .... does team pay for Vacancy ?
« on: September 15, 2009, 03:16:09 AM »
Okay here is another scenario. We have bowler quitting the league. He has agreed to pay and bowl for the next two weeks (Following the rules).

If his team chooses to stay after the two weeks, they will get a Vacancy Score of 120 with handicap figured in based from league rules.

Now this is where I am having trouble. Does this team need to pay for the Vacancy spot? To me it doesn't seem right to have that done.

I can find no league rule that applies to the situation. I hear a lot of things said but nothing in writing.

Is the Bowling Center allowed to charge (lineage) this team for a fourth bowler that they don't have?

Should the league expect this team to pay into the prize fund for the missing fourth bowler?

I guarantee if the answer is "YES" to either of these questions, the team is going to quit right on the spot.

We are hopeful to find a replacement but two weeks might not be enough time.
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Re: When someone quits a team .... does team pay for Vacancy ?
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 02:49:34 PM »
Contracts are generally only binding on the bowling center, not the league.  The contract merely states that the center will provide for X number of lanes to be available at a certain time on a certain night. Generally these contracts are only binding on the bowling center and not on the league itself.

Now the length of the contract generally gets upheld.  For instance if the league agreed to bowl 36 weeks, it will be charged for the full 36 weeks even if you decide to change your format and bowl 34 weeks.  You have to specify up front how long your league runs up front, and give the center manager notice as to how long your planning on using the same sets of lanes on a recurring basis.

I have seen many leagues sign contracts to reserve spots for the following year (only to never show up and bowl) as they were given an even better offer from another house.  The contract is broken and the house then has the ability to give those lanes to another league.


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Re: When someone quits a team .... does team pay for Vacancy ?
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 06:13:03 PM »
Our mens league is set up on a guarantee. The teams are five man teams, and the league is liable for lineage for x amount of teams at 5 men per team.

 If a team is a bowler (or more) short, the lineage charges come out of THAT TEAMS PRIZE MONEY for the year. This is used as an incentive for teams to replace bowlers who leave/quit.

 If the charges owed exceed the total amount of prize fund for THAT TEAM, the excess charges come out of the total league prize fund ( which really hacks off other teams who haven't had a shortage). Even more incentive to either replace the bowlers or pay for the stuff yourself.

  Our team had a guy drop out, so we each pitched in an extra $3.75 apiece each week until a replacement could be found. Another team left owing several hundred dollars (in spite of a rule against bowling if you owe 2 weeks or more, but that's another story) and the total prize fund suffered. When that team showed up to bowl the next season, they were voted out of the league entirely.
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Re: When someone quits a team .... does team pay for Vacancy ?
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 10:45:21 PM »
Let the counter personel at the center know that you need a bowler. Many times they have names of people looking for a team. I won a league one with 4 other guys i got from the counter
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Re: When someone quits a team .... does team pay for Vacancy ?
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 10:53:43 PM »
The loss linage will come out of your teams prize fund...Your league owes the house based on a full team.  I would suggest you start looking for another bowler.
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Re: When someone quits a team .... does team pay for Vacancy ?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 11:58:42 AM »
The center I use to work at had it based off of x number of teams with 5 bowlers or whatever the team was made of. So in that case say 20 teams with 5 bowlers you would pay for 100 bowlers. If one person was short yeah it was up to the team to cover. Most of the time if it was a decent person they would line up a sub or have the money there to pay for it. Yeah there were plenty of people that did not like it but we had to get our money. We would also indicate on the reciept that was written up if any bowlers were absent so the secretary knew.
As far as what to do if the league drops teams or adds teams you just redo your contract like Trig said. There never will be a way to please both the center and the bowlers. A lot people think you should only pay for what is there to bowl cause they don't want to pay for the person missing. While the center is looking at it as they have a reserved time for the league with that many lanes for you to bowl you need to pay for it.
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