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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: trash heap on January 08, 2013, 11:25:25 AM

Title: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: trash heap on January 08, 2013, 11:25:25 AM
I trying at practice to play deeper lines. I was fortunate last week that I had an odd number lane. So what is the best option to do when you are bowling in the other lane and the ball return is blocking you.

A. Stand in front of the ball return and develop a new approach style for the short distance.

B. Stand as close to the return as possible and try to move in front of it with one of your steps when you have cleared it.

Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: arickdm on January 08, 2013, 11:45:04 AM
If you can stay accurate then just walk left after you get in front of the ball return. then when you get farther left, stand in front of it. I'm not very accurate when walking in front of it so I just stand in front of it.
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: milorafferty on January 08, 2013, 11:48:17 AM
I tend to line up more toward the center of the approach and then drift left at an angle to the spot I need to be at release. I have had a lot more success with this method than with shortening or stepping around the return a couple of steps into my approach
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: Impending Doom on January 08, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
I find that if I drift around it, my shoulders open way more than they should, so I just stand in front of it.
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: Strapper_Squared on January 08, 2013, 12:15:05 PM
Stand left of it and drift right as you normally would?  Just make sure to notify the others so they don't think you've mistakenly chosen the wrong lane...
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: mainzer on January 09, 2013, 12:29:39 AM
I move left as far possible. When the time comes i move up in front of the return take small steps but keep the swing the same. It takes some practice to get the swing correct and timing to work with the smaller steps.

A tip: move up on left lane also keep both approaches the same. Taking small steps on the right lane and your normal approach on the left will make the lanes appear to play different. IMO the more standardized you can be the better.
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: stc067 on January 09, 2013, 10:20:29 AM
It's easier for me than most.I take a short 4 step approach, and my pushaway starts on the second step.When I have to go deep, I move in front of the ball return, take a three step approach, and start my pushaway on the first step.
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: Gunny on January 09, 2013, 11:24:33 AM
I stand in front of the ball return, or sit on the ball return.  Either way, your steps and timing have to adjust to the shorter distance.  I have to do this almost every week, we don't see much oil down here ;)
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: bradl on January 09, 2013, 01:50:39 PM

At times when I read this thread, I chuckle to myself.. For a number of people here probably weren't around when the ball returns and tunnel were above ground, so you couldn't move in front of the ball return, as each and every time, you'd kick it.

I know there are times when the shot would call for it, but that doesn't always mean you have to stay with the big hook or try to rip the cover off the ball.. How about just balling down, or play go with wrist position instead of playing around with timing? A simple change in ball position to where you're holding the ball with the thumb at 9:30 takes a fair amount of hook out of the ball to where normally it would go straight enough for a down and in shot, but with that type of condition, would give you a decent swing. Same thing would apply for flattening the wrist, then trying to snap through the ball.

Obviously, this doesn't assume going to something like urethane, pearl urethane, or plastic. But as we all know, sometimes, the big wheeling hook or crank isn't the answer, and there is only so much you can change before your game starts to get inconsistent..

BL.
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: txbowler on January 09, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
I've seen bowler's stand on the other lane and just walk to the spot with their normal approach but their body is pointed way right or left depending on what hand they throw with.  Thus they are walking more diagonally to take the ball return out of play and keep their normal steps.
Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: mainzer on January 10, 2013, 01:12:59 AM
My friends and i bowled in a house in Oshkosh WI  that still has over the top returns and no auto scoring. Had alot of fun. Just balled down instead of going left the return is only a issue if you let it be a issue.


At times when I read this thread, I chuckle to myself.. For a number of people here probably weren't around when the ball returns and tunnel were above ground, so you couldn't move in front of the ball return, as each and every time, you'd kick it.

I know there are times when the shot would call for it, but that doesn't always mean you have to stay with the big hook or try to rip the cover off the ball.. How about just balling down, or play go with wrist position instead of playing around with timing? A simple change in ball position to where you're holding the ball with the thumb at 9:30 takes a fair amount of hook out of the ball to where normally it would go straight enough for a down and in shot, but with that type of condition, would give you a decent swing. Same thing would apply for flattening the wrist, then trying to snap through the ball.

Obviously, this doesn't assume going to something like urethane, pearl urethane, or plastic. But as we all know, sometimes, the big wheeling hook or crank isn't the answer, and there is only so much you can change before your game starts to get inconsistent..

BL.

Title: Re: When the ball return is in the way
Post by: dmonroe814 on January 10, 2013, 06:40:12 AM
Playing deep is difficult if you are not comfortable with it.  It is something you have to work on.  Whether you drift in front of the approach or start in front of the ball return, is just whatever is most comfortable for you.