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Nicanor

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Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« on: May 05, 2010, 12:14:29 PM »
If we only pay $10 to National USBC where does the rest of the money go if you''re paying $20 for a USBC santioning card?  Who pays for awards?  Local or National office?  


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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 08:52:29 PM »

http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/rules/pdfs/2009-2010PlayingRules.pdf

Page 8 explains the fees.


Not sure about yours, but I think our local also has awards.  Of course it's possible the awards are from the center.  Either way we get awards that are similar to the old USBC awards (150 game, 175 game, pins, key chains, etc - based on average).



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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 09:14:34 PM »
I believe the USBC also paid for the pro womens prize fund which of course comes from sanction fee
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 09:07:39 AM »
Thank you for the response, but my real question is:  what do we get from the local USBC association that is worth $9-$10 per person (USBC santioning card) per year?




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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 10:11:21 AM »
You need to go to your annual local association meeting for that information or ask your Association President. Each association has a Board of Directors who vote on the local fees. I think the current limit that a local association can charge is $10. I am one of the  Directors for our local association and we vote on this every year. By the way, our local fee is only $5, which is used for the yearly awards banquet, center certification, meeting costs for the association etc.
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 12:49:58 PM »
When in doubt ask USBC.  I have seen some association presidents that have no idea what goes on.  They are elected and it might has well have been a beauty contest.  The association manager is suppose to be the authority on what is going on and they probably know a little more.  How much more is a good question.  Some associations are run very well others may be clueless.

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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 12:55:28 PM »
WHO CARES. Didnt we just have this same thread about a month or 2 ago?  You are paying $20 per year to participate in the sport you are supposed to enjoy. It is nothing compared to what bowlers pay for their league per year, and weekly pots and alcohol.  Bowlers are so cheap.  I could care less what my extra $10 goes to.
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 01:02:08 PM »
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WHO CARES. Didnt we just have this same thread about a month or 2 ago?  You are paying $20 per year to participate in the sport you are supposed to enjoy. It is nothing compared to what bowlers pay for their league per year, and weekly pots and alcohol.  Bowlers are so cheap.  I could care less what my extra $10 goes to.
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Someone has a reading comprehension problem. If you notice the subject of this thread, it seems that Nicanor cares. But thanks for your ever present opinion.
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 02:38:45 PM »
I honestly don't carre about $20.  But USBC takes $10 of that and has been the same for some time.  The State gets $1.  So that leaves our local association with $9 per sanction card.  We have lost so many awards in the past years to where now wwe don't get any or a stupid magnet.  Most work done with regards to our local USBC office is done voluntarily.  So from last year we went from $19 to $20 for a sanctioning card.  Where is the local money going?


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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 02:55:41 PM »
I would say the ultimate answer would be to pad pockets.  Whose pockets and where......that I dont know, but if investigated long enough, i'd say we'd see a substantial portion of that in pockets.

That's my opinion, that will change when proven otherwise.
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2010, 02:59:38 PM »
I am not a member of our local association, so I do not know everything that they do, but I am aware of some of it just by bowling four days a week.

Our local runs the city tournaments and helps in the county and state tournaments.  They also just purchased many new pins for local awards (225, 250, 600, 650, etc) since they are no longer available from the National.  They had to design the awards and then find a place to have them made and because of the cost, they had to buy a very large amount, enough to last five to ten years.  You would think that the National assn could contract that out and then sell the awards to the locals for a lesser cost, but... every local is on their own for that.  

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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 04:13:51 PM »
nicanor,

$9 local dues... some of that goes to paying the association manager's position. depending on the local association, you may get local awards too. some of it goes towards local association tournament, paying for lineage, advertising, that sort of stuff for the tournament. some of it goes to having to do background checks on board members to protect the youth from predators. some of it is processing fees, some of it goes to the annual banquets, award ceremonies and so on... there's many things your local association has to pay for with that $9 per person. more than what i listed...
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 08:08:17 PM »
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$20 bucks a year.  A nickel a day.  Who cares is right.  Every single one of us pisses that and more away each day easily.  Stroke was right, bowlers have to be the cheapest "sportsmen" on the planet.


Thank you CRD.  someone sees the light.  I'll gladly "donate" my extra $10 for the people that run our association tourney every year, provide a banquet and plaques for awards for the season, and keep a nice up to date website.  $10 ain't sheeet.
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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 08:20:48 PM »
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I'll gladly "donate" my extra $10 for the people that run our association tourney every year, provide a banquet and plaques for awards for the season, and keep a nice up to date website. $10 ain't sheet.


Not all associations do that. Our $10 goes for someone to be in a position, be away more then he's there, pay for his travel money to go to the state/national meeting. Other than that, can't see where the money goes.

You're welcome to ask for an expense sheet but none has ever been given, all that's said is it's in the meeting minutes, which you can't get a copy of. That may well be only here but it's one reason some people wonder where the money goes.
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Nicanor

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Re: Where does all the USBC sanctioning card fee go?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2010, 08:35:58 PM »
But also there are differing amounts of bowlers in a certain area.  Here in the San Diego area which includes local cities, there are quite a lot of bowlers.  Awards went away. We wonder what happens to all our awards, but don't care that our USBC cards continually go up.


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