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mrwizerd

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Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« on: December 26, 2017, 11:31:27 AM »
After some deliberating about my arsenal for an upcoming tournament, I have decided to add an IQ Tour Solid to the bag.  Normally that wouldn't be an issue, but I have 3 drilled IQ Tours and each has a different layout.  The three layouts are:  pin over ring, pin under ring w/CG kicked out, and pin to the right of ring w/CG kicked in.  The surfaces are all OOB (4000 grit).

My game is straight up the boards, 15-17 MPH, 325 revs, and rarely do I see my feet get to the left of 20 board unless the lanes get REAL toasty.

The tournament pattern is a complete guess considering they don't follow what they post on the tournament website.  I can say that the pattern won't be anything more difficult than a challenge pattern.

Current tournament arsenal:
Phaze 2 (pin under ring w/CG kicked out)
Code Red (pin under ring w/CG kicked out)
Marvel Pearl (pin up and to the right of ring w/CG kicked in)
Blue Dot

I am leaning towards the pin over ring layout because of the other 2 pin under bowling balls already in the arsenal.

Comments?  Suggestions?  Smart remarks?

 

Impending Doom

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2017, 11:46:29 AM »
Take any of them, because surface matters most, especially on a lower differential ball. Unless any of them have an extra hole, at the same surface they're going to roll pretty much the same, with a board or 2 difference.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 12:02:15 PM »
From where you are at with the IQ Tours you already have, the only way you would end up with something different enough to see would be if you went one of two ways:
1: 2" pin to change the transition shape at the friction (earlier, slower read)
2: RICO drill to max out the available enhancement you get in the core from the extra hole (maybe help get in and around the pattern more)

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2017, 01:19:52 PM »
My question to you would be, what difference do you usually note between the 3 when you throw them?

Mine, and I've only ever had the one, is pin up 5"x30 with oob surface plus lane shine. Mine is quite flippy. I assume you have one that is more flippy and one that's more smooth, and that you kinda know what look you don't have already from the other pieces in the bag.
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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2017, 02:49:47 PM »
Take any of them, because surface matters most, especially on a lower differential ball. Unless any of them have an extra hole, at the same surface they're going to roll pretty much the same, with a board or 2 difference.

As doom described.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2017, 08:06:41 AM »
From where you are at with the IQ Tours you already have, the only way you would end up with something different enough to see would be if you went one of two ways:
1: 2" pin to change the transition shape at the friction (earlier, slower read)
2: RICO drill to max out the available enhancement you get in the core from the extra hole (maybe help get in and around the pattern more)



He didn't say he wanted a 4th IQ.  He asked which one of his current 3 to add to his tournament arsenal.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 08:08:34 AM by kmanuel »

Luke Morningwood

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2017, 09:41:47 AM »
You are absolutely correct. I didn't read that very well.
"F" for the day on reading comprehension!

From where you are at with the IQ Tours you already have, the only way you would end up with something different enough to see would be if you went one of two ways:
1: 2" pin to change the transition shape at the friction (earlier, slower read)
2: RICO drill to max out the available enhancement you get in the core from the extra hole (maybe help get in and around the pattern more)



He didn't say he wanted a 4th IQ.  He asked which one of his current 3 to add to his tournament arsenal.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2017, 10:04:07 AM »
Ok, not knowing your pap, I'm going to shoot from the hip.

Pin over and under ring will probably be the same distance from your pap, give or take a half inch. Pin next to ring, maybe another 3/4 of an inch closer. The core dynamics dictate that you're not going to see much difference in flare potential. The diff is .029 after all.

You haven't mentioned if you have an extra hole or not, so let's assume that there aren't. That puts the "mass bias" near or in the thumb. Extra hole location would change that.

Surfaces are all 4000. So right now, you have a pin up (shorter transition), pin down (longer transition) and pin next to ring (somewhere in between). The shape will be SLIGHTLY different.

My advice is to take the pin down to 1000 for the fresh, pin up to 4000 to create a bit more bump. Leave the other at home.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2017, 10:07:53 AM »
Ok, not knowing your pap, I'm going to shoot from the hip.

Pin over and under ring will probably be the same distance from your pap, give or take a half inch. Pin next to ring, maybe another 3/4 of an inch closer. The core dynamics dictate that you're not going to see much difference in flare potential. The diff is .029 after all.

You haven't mentioned if you have an extra hole or not, so let's assume that there aren't. That puts the "mass bias" near or in the thumb. Extra hole location would change that.

Surfaces are all 4000. So right now, you have a pin up (shorter transition), pin down (longer transition) and pin next to ring (somewhere in between). The shape will be SLIGHTLY different.

My advice is to take the pin down to 1000 for the fresh, pin up to 4000 to create a bit more bump. Leave the other at home.

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mrwizerd

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2017, 10:48:42 AM »
Ok, not knowing your pap, I'm going to shoot from the hip.

Pin over and under ring will probably be the same distance from your pap, give or take a half inch. Pin next to ring, maybe another 3/4 of an inch closer. The core dynamics dictate that you're not going to see much difference in flare potential. The diff is .029 after all.

You haven't mentioned if you have an extra hole or not, so let's assume that there aren't. That puts the "mass bias" near or in the thumb. Extra hole location would change that.

Surfaces are all 4000. So right now, you have a pin up (shorter transition), pin down (longer transition) and pin next to ring (somewhere in between). The shape will be SLIGHTLY different.

My advice is to take the pin down to 1000 for the fresh, pin up to 4000 to create a bit more bump. Leave the other at home.

I guess I should have included balance hole information.  Both the pin up and pin down have balance holes, the pin up balance hole is inline with the center of my grip and the pin down balance hole is in the p3 region.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2017, 11:14:16 AM »
Ok, so the pin down will have a bit more flare separation and the pin up will stand up and straighten out a bit more on the back. I still stand by my surface recommendations.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2017, 11:47:53 AM »
Surface is king wizard, plain and simple.

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Re: Which IQ Tour Solid to choose? --arsenal help
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 03:01:39 PM »
On a low diif ball like the IQ the different pins aren't going to make much difference.  Take the one with the freshest shell