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themagician

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Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« on: May 21, 2009, 08:26:05 AM »
Alright, just looking to hear what you guys have noticed with this pattern.

You can find it on the Kegel site, http://www.kegel.net/patternlibrary/default.asp , just navigate to the sport series patterns.

Its 43ft, and the reason I made this topic is for the summer league i'm bowling they are laying down the kegel patterns. They have a few lanes where they put the pattern out to try out the week before its used. I practiced on this pattern and found it to be quite easy compared to my expectations. I didn't kill it but averaged over 200 for 5 games and found good looks playing pretty straight right of ten and bellying the ball from the track area to 8-10 board. The shot had some area to it and was fresh. I don't know if its the nature of the pattern but it seemed like you could play it pretty much anywhere and have room, and I just am befuddled by a sport shot playing with this much ease.


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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 04:41:20 PM »
Sorry for the hijack, but what was the program you signed up for?  $3K is a pretty good chunk of change.  We have the PBA Experience leagues around here during the summer, but haven't seen anyone talk about the Kegel patterns.  Three grand sounds like a good incentive to get people interested.
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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 04:53:46 PM »
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I just am befuddled by a sport shot playing with this much ease.

sport shot does NOT mean unplayable.  

I am really amazed that such a misconception would still exist more than six years after the concept of sport-compliant patterns was introduced...
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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 04:56:37 PM »
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I just am befuddled by a sport shot playing with this much ease.

sport shot does NOT mean unplayable.  

I am really amazed that such a misconception would still exist more than six years after the concept of sport-compliant patterns was introduced...


No kidding. My book average is 194. I average about 203 on PBA Viper, a sport-compliant shot, and can get close to my book average on Scorpion.

At the same time, I'm lucky to average 160 on Cheetah.

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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 06:51:58 PM »
Maybe I was unclear, its not that the shot was playable just that there was miss room on multiple lines and it wasn't the challenge that I expected it to be. Its not normal to have 3 boards or so of an area on a sport shot from what i've seen, it was very interesting.

I'll report back after league tuesday as well.

On Edit, CRD, the league is a nonsanctioned summer league, therefore sport or nonsport it does not matter.
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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 07:22:43 PM »
back when sport was first brought out. every sport compliant pattern was 2:1 so it was almost unplayable and thats where people getthe misconception. over the years they have lightened up the standards. especially when PBA leagues started. if you could average 190-200 on the original sport shots then you were really good and could average 230 easily on the house shots at the time.
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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 07:24:55 PM »
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back when sport was first brought out. every sport compliant pattern was 2:1 so it was almost unplayable and thats where people getthe misconception.


They were NOT unplayable...they DID expose the flaws in the games of MANY people.  The reason 2:1 failed was because too few people were willing to check their ego at the door and actually LEARN TO BOWL.
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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2009, 07:25:44 PM »
The friction at your house, the track wear, how many lanes were oiled all play into account in the ease or difficulty of a pattern.  I'm guessing you have a higher friction house and the pattern was only out on a few paris which doesn't always allow the pattern to actually show it's true colors as the house shot is still imprinted on the transfer roller and the lanes.

Take every single lane pattern ever with a grain of salt as to how they are playing and how they are supposed to play.

Sport compliant shots do not equal US Open. It may feel like that to some, but if you play the lane surface and pattern distance correct you will have room to miss.

Regarding the 2:1, that strict ratio was changed to accomodated old beat up houses and wood lanes that would create reverse blocks out of the gate with such defined wear areas.  There is actually a scale in relation to how new the lane surface is to the ratio of the pattern. The newer the lanes the lower the ration.

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Re: Kegel's Dead Mans Curve
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 01:46:51 AM »
i know this is a super old topic but was just curious if someone could give me a good ball option for this pattern? im bowling in my first non house shot tournament and all i was really told was this would be the pattern...i have everything from dry to heavy balls but have no clue on what to expect...

if it helps i like to swing it wide and let it come back in but from what im reading you won't be able to do that on this shot because of the oil on the outside?

thanks for any info possible...
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