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Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« on: October 12, 2009, 06:18:34 AM »


Bowler "A" who has one release, and is very freaking good at it.  He has 12 bowling balls in his trunk that covers most conditions he sees.  He never has to change his release, just changes balls.

Bowler "B" has 8 releases and 2 bowling balls.

Who is the better bowler?  We know, bowler "B" is the most versatile bowler, but does that make him better when bowler A can always use his A game.

 

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 03:05:31 PM »
I'd like to be and prefer Bowler 'B' 99 times out of 100. I'd put money on him, as a matter of fact.
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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 03:08:47 PM »
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I'd like to be and prefer Bowler 'B' 99 times out of 100. I'd put money on him, as a matter of fact.
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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 03:16:31 PM »
I'd have to agree with Charlest on this one.

With the scenario you give, I 'd tend to picture Bowler "A", as being a slave to pretty much, one section of the lane......though he could play that one section with an assortment of different pieces. He might still suffer some serious carry issues nonetheless.

Whereas, Bowler "B" with his assorted release changes, would most probably change his hook shapes, which in turn might have him playing in some virgin, unused oil, and increase his carry percentage as well.

True, enuff....Bowler "A" could accomplish the very same thing by going to a different ball....I just think it would take him a frame or two longer, to realign himself to the pocket, and attain that good carry, all over again.
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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009, 04:45:32 PM »
bowler "C" will always prevail FYI

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2009, 07:37:19 PM »
I chose bowler "B". Too many balls to decide on when you come across difficult transition. And having only 1 hand position may work on some conditions but what happens if they come across a reverse block pattern or short pattern to where it's going to require more or less revs? The main thing for each bowler is how well they both adjust their lines when needed.

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2009, 10:33:36 PM »
Bowler B. I see too many bowlers in my league bowling that are bowler A, and once you get them away from the THS they see at that house, they struggle big time. I'd rather have less equipment and the ability to confidently change releases, targeting, ball speed, lay down point, etc. which gives the bowlers more tools to tackle a variety of conditions.

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2009, 11:56:07 PM »
B always, I struggled to learn this when I came out of youth leagues . We always had Tourneys and traveling league but always on a THS, so I got used to just carrying enough gear to cover anything. When I got Adult tourneys on Sport and PBA Conditions I had to learn how to use differnt wrist positions and take or add revs etc.
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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 12:05:30 AM »
a combination of the two is ideal

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 01:20:49 AM »
Bowler B.

I'm bowler B with the exception of the limited equipment. I have too much.

Don't get me wrong I bowl usually one style as my A game and then adjust off it as needed. I have 3 to 4 different releases that I can throw.

I know plenty of guys that throw the ball one way and one way only and score well. But usually they don't have a big arsenal to go with it.

I've noticed that there are a lot of bowlers that only throw the ball one way though, and wonder if it is better or not. On league it usually is a tough call until the one night that the shot is drier or just different and then you wonder why they can't adjust.

It may also depend on if you bowl on a variety of conditions or not.

I will still vote for B.
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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 01:57:08 AM »
B, definitively. Before you haul tons of balls around, you better know what you are doing as a player.

The truth might be found in between these two extremes, but I'd put my money on bowler "B", especially in a longer format.
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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 02:22:05 AM »
This is like comparing John Nolan to Chris Barnes. i heard on xtraframe than Nolen Doesnt change his release that much but have a million bowling balls and know what every one of them does. and chris barnes is the full package regarding in terms of releases and so one. he just have a few more than 2 balls

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 04:59:49 AM »

I'd have to go with B..

I know Brian Voss has been to Europe a couple of times only bringing 2 balls.. An Elite Gold Label and Black Label.. And he did darn good with just those 2 balls.. I think he even won a tournament over here only bringing those 2 balls.. Think it was in Barcelona 2005..

I heard a story from this years US Open, from a guy who crossed with Mike Scroggins, that Mike had a couple of 3-ball rollers packed with only the original Cell.. With mostly the same layout and that he had tweaked the covers so that he could some what play the same part of the lanes, but just switch balls, when the lanes transitioned..

Must be nice to have the opportunity to have whatever drilled up for you..


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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 07:06:35 AM »
The problem with using equipment only is that there are more variations of conditions than the amount of equipment you can carry.

Sometimes minute changes can have huge differences in carry.

So I go with Bowler "B" over a variety of conditions.

Now if bowler "A" matches up very well on a condition then he is going to beat your brains out.

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Re: Which is Better, Versatility or Arsenal
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 10:10:56 AM »
The big arsenal gets in the way more times than not. Then there are those tournaments where you can't have your entire arsenal.  

But i have a funny story.

Bowled in a pro-am with my sister and the pro i was matched up with was say'n how good a bowler my sister was and that i would never bowl anything worth a danm.  Now my sister "throws" atleast 19 to 22 mph at the pins. Has a back swing that isnt quite over her head but close and has virtualy no revs.  Me i can alter my speed throw 15 to rocketing the ball 22mph.

this dude say'n that to me irritated me to the point that i could help but laugh at this so-called pro cause i beat him by 30+ each game using only 2 balls while he threw every ball he had brought in and had someone run out to the car and bring in more. This wasn't even a house that i bowled in before so if it was a ths it was new to me.

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