Post by: LaneHammer20 on August 15, 2008, 05:20:18 AM
PAP 5 5/8 up, 3/4 over
Current order from strongest to weakest
Threshold- 4 3/4 X 6MB- pin above ring, MB in thumb
Uprising-soon to be ordered
Code- 4 3/4 X 3 3/4- pin above ring
Creature solid- 5 X 5.5 Pin above ring
Heist- still undrilled, and undecided where it might fit but picked it up for dirt cheap and couldn't pass.
I feel that my heavy oil spot could be covered by the Threshold even though drilled weak if surface is tooken down to 1000 or 500.
I feel like i definitly need a pearl to throw either between code and creature or below creature.
I am looking for a med-price ball such as pyscho or rapid fire pearl. I prefer a more controlled, read of the lane. not srtait skid snap and I figured these to would give me that look.
Anyone have any experiences with these two, I have never tried storm so I am sorta curious. Thanks
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Post by: scotts33 on August 15, 2008, 01:51:00 PM
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PAP 5 5/8 up, 3/4 over
I think you're 5 5/8 over and 3/4 up????
Suggest you look at Ogre Pearl maybe Gladiator Pearl.
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Post by: LaneHammer20 on August 15, 2008, 01:56:02 PM
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Ya my bad. I have considered the ogre line
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Post by: Dan Belcher on August 15, 2008, 02:07:02 PM
quote:I'm not as familiar with the Psycho, but I do know the Rapid Fire Pearl is very skid/snap by nature. You may want to look into the Storm Street Rod Pearl. Very rolly for a pearl, a good medium condition ball.
I am looking for a med-price ball such as pyscho or rapid fire pearl. I prefer a more controlled, read of the lane. not srtait skid snap and I figured these to would give me that look.
Post by: LaneHammer20 on August 15, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
They oil over top of oil the night before for out league. SO it is heavy and has carrydown. but once third game comes around you need something to get down the lane.
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Post by: SVstar34 on August 15, 2008, 06:43:49 PM
Rapid Fire Pearl is almost all skid/flip.
You could even throw in a Creature Pearl if you like the solid version.
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Post by: charlest on August 15, 2008, 06:46:56 PM
The Ogre Pearl is already famous for that: particle pearl type of reaction with small amount of flare - strongish coverstock for a pearl. Not big hooker because of lack of flare but strong hitting.
The Gladiator Pearl falls into a similar category but more overall hook (than the OP) with lower RG and higher flare. Safer overall pearl than the Ogre Pearl for us less than stellar bowlers. Very consistent - might replace the Heist and the Creature solid.
Kinetic Pearl is similar beast - more control and much less skid/snap than your average pearl. Not cheap but not expensive.
Rapid Fire Pearl - initial reports are very skid/snap.
Rapid Fire solid and Track Tantrum are two solids that act more like control pearls.
Visionary AMB Bronze Centaur is a pretty amazing piece so far for me. It acts kind of like a particle pearl: lots of control with a driving but non-flippy backend. Just starting using one and am happily surprised so far.
RG Venus: technically a particle pearl with highish RG and low flare, but strong reacting for light to medium-light oil - great ball. Control with medium backend, kind of like a Bronze Centaur for lighter oil.
I believe the Code is a solid/pearl hybrid or combination. (Just a reminder)
Cherry Or Emerald Vibe: the reports on these balls is not exaggerated. Emerald is stronger so you may not like it. The Blue Vibe is technically a solid but most people thought it acts like a controlled pearl. (been playing with one for a couple of weeks now and it's a greta ball). Cherry and Emerald are definitely pearls.
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Edited on 8/15/2008 7:28 PM
Post by: T-GOD on August 15, 2008, 06:55:17 PM
Post by: SVstar34 on August 15, 2008, 06:57:14 PM
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Post by: directdrill on August 16, 2008, 07:38:06 AM
I have found it to be very versatile with coverstock changes. At 2000 and 4000 Abralon with no polish, it will give you the control you are looking for. Currently, I have mine (label drilled) finished with Valentino's Resurrection and Snake Oil. With this finish, it has a skid/snap reaction.
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Post by: the sleeze on August 16, 2008, 12:09:18 PM
Post by: the man on August 16, 2008, 11:45:54 PM
Post by: SVstar34 on August 16, 2008, 11:59:05 PM
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Post by: LaneHammer20 on August 18, 2008, 08:00:49 AM
I saw the pyscho thrown last night and was pretty impressed. it was smoother than most pearls I have seen.
So far it is between the ogre pearl and pyscho. They both cost close to $100, and I could see both of them working well for me. As charlest stated, the lower flare ogre pearl could make it kinda drill specific. My plan was to start drilling alot of my equipment the same starting with my code and threshold, nboth having the pin 4 3/4 X 3 3/4. That might be to far a pin placement for such a weak differential.
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Post by: SVstar34 on August 18, 2008, 11:35:56 AM
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Post by: charlest on August 18, 2008, 12:05:04 PM
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I have actually thrown a cherry vibe, friend has one and fits my hand pretty good. For the shot I will bebusing it on, it goes to long and makes for inconsistent bvall reaction from what i have seen so far.
While I still think the OP and the Psycho are closer to what you implied yo uwanted, don't forget that MainePBA said he was drilled Rico. That has the potential to smoothe out a lot of the negative factors you saw in the normally drilled Cherry.
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I saw the pyscho thrown last night and was pretty impressed. it was smoother than most pearls I have seen.
So far it is between the ogre pearl and pyscho. They both cost close to $100, and I could see both of them working well for me. As charlest stated, the lower flare ogre pearl could make it kinda drill specific. My plan was to start drilling alot of my equipment the same starting with my code and threshold, nboth having the pin 4 3/4 X 3 3/4. That might be to far a pin placement for such a weak differential.
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I'd suggest a stacked, 4x4, with the pin at or just above the ring finger area, for the OP, from my experience. But the Psycho has a low enough RG and enough flare for your drill above to work fairly well.
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Post by: LaneHammer20 on August 18, 2008, 03:57:19 PM
Ogre Pearl-Pros
-Smooth from what I have heard
-Price point
-This is my biggest PRO, it comes at a middle of the road surface 1500-polished, gives you alot of room to change to find a desired reaction.
-More durable with the cover to core, with no filler
-Takes changes to surface really well for being the all cover to core combo.
CONS
-Little more than Psycho
-Like stated earlier in post, POSSIBLY drill specific
Psycho- Pros
-Maybe easier to layout with no worries.
-Might be smoother than ogre pearl because of its specs
-One of the best looking balls I have seen yet-means nothing to me though
-A little cheaper
-Price point
CONS
-Might be to strong for what I am looking for
-Comes at 4000 polished, that doesn't leave you much more room if it still doesn't go long enough, this concern's me because i am big on coverstock changes
-ALthough I clean all my orbs religiously, Hammer balls in general require more upkeep to keep the same reaction
I see the OP has more pro's and the OOB surface is something I like to see. I know I could flip a coin and whichever one it landed on I would most likely be happy with, but the Ogre just seems like a sure bet. Heck the lower differential might be good because of my high track and I generate alot of revs, alot of flare sometimes hurts my game. I had great success with my Buzz which has a low diff and was drilled weak 5.5 X 4.5
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