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The great one

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What to do...
« on: October 24, 2003, 09:24:56 PM »
Had problems w/the house i bowl in on monday nights being too dry. Started out w/a 220 ave. and shot 550 the last 2 weeks because the shot has been drier. I was asked to sub on wed, and figured i'd try to find something that would help me score for monday nights. Drilled up a heat 2 pearl w/a sarge easter grip, and shot 708. Nothing great, but i didn't have to stand on 45 and play over the gutter cap. Thursday, i go into practice at the same house to try and get a little more comfortable w/the new grip. First ball, 10 pin, go to pick it up, slip it in the gutter, ball goes in, jumps up, hits the rake arm, hits the 10 pin and hits back down on the lane, the rake sweeps it off the deck. It comes back, gash right next to the thumb hole, and a crack starting there and going all the way around the ball. Manager says ball defect, and that he will not replace reactive resin balls anymore.Proshop says can't send it back because its too old (which it is, already talked to ball company)This is at an AMF house, and the only thing the manager said he could do was try and get me an AMF ball. If this falls threw, any thoughts on what i should do to try and get something for a replacement?
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2003, 12:33:21 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2003, 01:12:20 PM »
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First ball, 10 pin, go to pick it up, slip it in the gutter, ball goes in, jumps up, hits the rake arm, hits the 10 pin and hits back down on the lane, the rake sweeps it off the deck.


I'm sure, I'll be in the minority here.  But, if you throw it that far right it's your mistake and you deal with the consequences.  Not the houses fault.  It's also why I always use plastic for all single pin spares.  JMO.

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2003, 01:45:55 PM »
That is an understandable thought, however i forgot to mention, after it happened, the mechanic went to check the lane, the flat gutter instead of being lined up w/the first gutter, was not, and was above it, causing the ball to jump up instead of just staying in the gutter. A piece of the ball was taken off the start of the flat gutter, and another off the rake arm. And there's no way for the ball to be repaired, it has now cracked around twice.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2003, 01:48:11 PM »
If the house and mechanic take blame...then it's up to them to replace ball.  JMO.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2003, 09:16:28 PM »
The house should definitely have to replace the ball. If they refuse, and if it comes down to it, get all your bowling buddies and protest outside the house. If a group stands together you can get more done than you can by yourself. Just tell them it could happen to them next and I'm sure you will get some backup. The house won't want the bad publicity either.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2003, 12:53:50 AM »
Before you guys jump all over the manager, reread the initial statement.  The house offered to replace the ball with a comparable AMF.  

It would be close to impossible to find a NIB Heat 2, seems to me like the house is trying it's best to rectify the situation.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what AMF ball would give the same reaction as the Heat.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2003, 03:12:47 AM »
I'm not getting a choice, IF they replace it, it will be the green and yellow "tri-hump" (yea, not a big amf fan) but i already have offers for trades if it goes threw, will find out monday and update.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2003, 06:28:13 AM »
Besides the house management being low-life pond scum,
when my Heat 2 Pearl died, I never did find a substitute for it and, believe me, I looked. I was a little soured on Track at the time, so I never tried the original Hex. The Crunchtime may be worth trying or a Messenger Ti B/S/P or a Crimson Executioner. The Messenger and the Executioner are the only balls I know for sure that hit hard enough to simulate the hit of the Heat 2 Pearl. (that is, besides the original Boss Pearl, but that is all but gone, museum quality.)
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2003, 10:23:25 AM »
Getting off the subject, I drilled up a crunch time and NOTHING hits harder than that ball. Messenger 10s have 2 or 3 pins flying at it. Pins fly everywhere and it truly is a terrific ball.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2003, 10:42:05 AM »
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Getting off the subject, I drilled up a crunch time and NOTHING hits harder than that ball. Messenger 10s have 2 or 3 pins flying at it. Pins fly everywhere and it truly is a terrific ball.


Soooo, the important questions are
- how similar to the Heat 2 Pearl is the Crunchtime's ball path and oil handling capabilities??? and
- how did you drill it for which lane oil pattern?

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2003, 12:41:46 PM »
My heat 2 had alot more backend, and reved up later the crunch time does. The heat 2 was drilled basicly 4x4, and the cruch time has the pin directly above the ring finger, and cg kicked out w/a extra hole. This is a layout i use most often. Crunch time doesn't handle heavy oil well, but as longs as the backends are clean, it will get desent movement. As i said, the hit is terrific. Pins flying everywhere. Nothing i've thrown hits harder than the crunch time. Will be the first ball out of my bag anywhere I go (besides the 2 houses i bowl league at, only because i haven't had to change balls in 4 weeks)
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2003, 01:48:35 PM »
If the CT is good with the pin above the bridge, would it be a good H2P replacement with the pin below the bridge?
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2003, 02:49:53 PM »
The CT revs up sooner than the heat 2, with less backend snap. By putting the pin under the fingers, I would think it would rev up even sooner, with a sooner, less snappy movement. I could be wrong, I'm positive i will be drilling up 3 or 4 more, one probably with that layout.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2003, 04:12:46 PM »
Did your Heat 2 pearl also have the pin over the bridge, then?
Both have the same core; they should rev up the same. Only if the CT's cover is "grabbier" than the Hex's should it rev up earlier. If that is so, then maybe one of those other balls I mentioned, Messenger or Red Executioner, would be a better (direct) replacement for the H2P??? Not sure myself.

I think I want to try the CT; wish it had a different name ...

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