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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Brickguy221 on June 29, 2003, 10:46:54 PM

Title: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Brickguy221 on June 29, 2003, 10:46:54 PM
Ever since February there has been a lot of discussion on this site from time to time in regard to the CLT Grip. I'm sure that by now, some of you have tried it.

I am curious as to who uses it, who has tried it, and what are your comments about it? Will appreciate anyone responding to this.
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: HamPster on June 30, 2003, 01:51:41 PM
Lol, really?  I've never seen a word about it.  What is it?
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Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: omegabowler on June 30, 2003, 02:02:34 PM
It is a must for me now that I have tried it. The key is still having the proper pitches for you hand. CLT just re-orients the angle of the finger pitches to allow for your hands natural angle between your thumb pad and finger pads.

This allow a more comfortable span and still maintain a lot of surface contact between the ball and palm. I measured the before and after and 50% more of my hand rested on the ball.

In my experience a streched out span allows the palm to hold more of the bowling ball, creating a lot more roll. when I dropped span Lengths to stop my hand from hurting, I lost the roll off my hand. when I found CLT it put it all back.

Even when I have to pickup the speed and find myself gripping and ripping on dry shots, my hand is almost pain free the next day. There is only so much a good fit can correct
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Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Doug Sterner on June 30, 2003, 02:13:14 PM
With the CLT I have seen an increased rev rate, more comfort and a better thumb release. Perhaps the best thing has been the loss of the callous on the right side of my thumb knuckle.

I suppose the rev increase is due to the thumb release and the thumb is releasing cleaner because it is not putting pressure on that part of my thumb anymore (assuming it was from squeezing the ball).

I now use the CLT method to fit every first time fingertip bowler that comes into my shop. The pitches look a little goofy at times when they get written on the drill sheet but the results are there. I have had far fewer problems with bowlers complaining about how the finger tip grip "feels funny" when they first start out.

In short, it works!!!!

Also FYI...if your pro shop uses a GilMac drill press (arguably one of the best presses on the market) it is very difficult to drill a CLT so that may be why some shop owners have never heard of it.

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Doug Sterner
Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
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Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: HamPster on June 30, 2003, 02:26:31 PM
Could you explain it to me then?  Always looking for a new trick.
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Forget Kung Fu, I know Ron Bahr!!!

The only difference between youth and adult leagues are that the big boys are allowed to whine.  They're more entertaining anyway.
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Buzzhead on June 30, 2003, 10:09:19 PM
I am messing with this drilling this summer and still have not came up with a good feel. 2 balls and 3 plugs later... I am about ready to make a trip to see Doug Sterner.....to see if this really feels better. One good thing though the driller I am working with was having some trouble bowling more than 2 games without pain in his hand, he drilled this up and he loves it.... although he pitched everything to the left 3/4".... I tried his and did not like it...will post if I hit the right combo but it is getting very wearing.

Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: T-GOD on June 30, 2003, 10:42:06 PM
As long as the thumb hole has the proper bevel, the ball will feel good. =:^D
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Amigo2 on July 01, 2003, 05:02:55 AM
Switched to CLT over a year ago and everything I use is and will be CLT. Although there are some that doubt the value of CLT drilling, I will not go back. Shortened the span, pitched the fingers away, forward and bevel in the thumb and what a feel. The ball just falls into my grip, wished I had known this thirty years earlier!

Amigo

See you in St. Louis
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: HamPster on July 01, 2003, 11:01:06 AM
Oookey, some people here are still WONDERING WHAT IT IS!!!!  Lol, dangle the tuna in front of the cat, geez.  Tell meeeeee!!!!
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Forget Kung Fu, I know Ron Bahr!!!

The only difference between youth and adult leagues are that the big boys are allowed to whine.  They're more entertaining anyway.
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: da Shiv on July 01, 2003, 11:23:29 AM
This is a good discussion on the CLT topic:

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=28101&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5

Lots of good info from Doug Sterner.  I'm going to talk to my pro shop operator about trying it sometime in the next few days.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Strider on July 01, 2003, 11:25:51 AM
Hamster, the last thing you need now is a new toy to tinker with.  I thought you have a ton of things to iron out first.  If you perform a search, there was a topic in the Miscellaneous or Drilling section not too long ago.
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Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 01, 2003, 11:41:18 AM
Hamster, I was just getting ready to tell you to go back to June 10th in the miscellaneous column under the title of "Centerline Transfer Questions". The information da Shiv just gave you will put you there. Stroll down to BT's post and click on "CLT instructions in PDF Format" and it will give you perfect instructions on how to drill the CLT Grip.
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: Brickguy221 on July 01, 2003, 11:57:21 PM
Anyone else have any comments? Has anyone tried it and not liked it?
Title: Re: Who uses the CLT Grip
Post by: HamPster on July 02, 2003, 12:28:13 AM
Yeah, I know, Strider, thanks.  I work in a pro shop, so I'm always looking for new tricks for the boss, just to clarify.  It's hard for him to keep up sometimes since he has an 8-4, and then the pro shop until 8 or 9 at night.  Sunday is the only day he ever has off, the rest he works 12+ hour days.
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Forget Kung Fu, I know Ron Bahr!!!

The only difference between youth and adult leagues are that the big boys are allowed to whine.  They're more entertaining anyway.