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Remmah

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Who was having a worse day?
« on: April 25, 2021, 11:07:54 AM »
Who was having the worse day Randy or Anthony?

 

Medichal

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2021, 09:01:13 PM »
still young pdw was worse just ask us senior bowlers who knew pete back then

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2021, 09:44:14 PM »
I agree with Brad. I also think that the broadcasters chose to put this out there for us to see. Just not well thought out in my opinion. Maybe they will figure out how to portray a positive bad guy image in the future, and Anthony will play the role a little better. Everybody loves a bad@@@ hero/winner ala PDW. Nobody likes whiners.

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2021, 12:18:00 AM »
still young pdw was worse just ask us senior bowlers who knew pete back then

I knew him back then. Saw him three times a year when he came to Elkhorn, Nebraska for the PBA midwest regional. The difference between him even back then and Simo now, is that PDW wanted to be the bad guy. He wanted to be the heel, so he played up to it. That's what got him his reputation.

I don't know if Simo wants to have the reputation of being the brat. Now, he can be the heel, as long as he plays it right, but no-one will want to deal with a whiny bratty heel.

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2021, 07:02:57 AM »
Pretty unfair to compare Anthony to Pete Weber.  Pete was just an obnoxious drunk.  When the geek squad bought the PBA they thought they'd market it different. 

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2021, 10:46:24 AM »
Pretty unfair to compare Anthony to Pete Weber.  Pete was just an obnoxious drunk.  When the geek squad bought the PBA they thought they'd market it different. 
Well, this is out there for all to see, without any doubt.  :o

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2021, 03:34:11 PM »
Does the PBA even need to have "heels" and "babyfaces"?  It is bowling not the WWE (despite the whole championship belt thing.)


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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2021, 07:04:58 PM »
right on pete liked his sause

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2021, 09:04:08 PM »
right on pete liked his sause

For those not in the know: Definition; sause: An obsolete form of sauce. Obsolete?:o

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2021, 10:05:18 PM »
Does the PBA even need to have "heels" and "babyfaces"?  It is bowling not the WWE (despite the whole championship belt thing.)

No, they don't "need" it, but seeing that people didn't like Pete because of his attitude and that he wasn't Dick, they started to not like him. So Pete took that and ran with it. Pete is a huge wrestling fan (according to him and the Bad Boy of Bowling documentary), so he decided to play up on that, and it worked.

The question here, is if Simo is wanting to go that route; if he does, then I'd say he's going about it the wrong way, because no-one wants to deal with or watch a whiny little brat all the time.

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2021, 08:12:57 AM »
Simonsen was by far having the worst day.  I agreed with everything Randy had to say.  Simonsen acted like a 5 year old.  Acting like a brat 3 shots in tells me something is going on behind the scenes whether in his personal life or something happened before the show that put him in that mood before he stepped on to the tv pair.  Had absolutely nothing to do with a bad rack.

To Gene......comparing Simonsen to Pete is not unfair for the simple fact that 24 year old Pete and Simonsen have a lot of similarities. Pete was suspended more than once due to his behavior.  Want to say one time it was a 6 month and another time it was for an entire season.  My question is what is keeping the PBA from suspending Simonsen?  He has damaged bowling center property to which he basically shrugged it off by saying just take it the money to replace it out of my winnings. 

Another thing I wonder is.......What about Storm and any other sponsors he may have?  Have to think it is in their contract that since he represents Storm Products that they have a right to terminate the contract if his conduct is not up to their standards.  Maybe if he loses some of the perks of his profession that he will then realize the consequences of his actions.  Or...maybe he wont.  But if the only thing people are going to do is stand aside and just offer their opinions about how he is acting, what incentive does Simonsen have to stop? 

I like watching Simonsen because you are not sure what he is going to bring whether it is the 21 mph frozen rope, slow hooking 5th arrow, or going to the backup ball. But the bottom line is that Simonsen does not yet have the maturity or "maple moxie" to handle the pressure of being one of the faces of the PBA.  Only thing missing from that telecast was Simonsen sitting with his blankie and sucking his thumb. 
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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2021, 10:13:38 AM »
Maybe one day, we all will make it to the level of being able to show emotions on TV. If you are at this level and not showing some emotion, when you are doing bad, that is a problem.
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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2021, 05:22:44 PM »
Simonsen was by far having the worst day.  I agreed with everything Randy had to say.  Simonsen acted like a 5 year old.  Acting like a brat 3 shots in tells me something is going on behind the scenes whether in his personal life or something happened before the show that put him in that mood before he stepped on to the tv pair.  Had absolutely nothing to do with a bad rack.

To Gene......comparing Simonsen to Pete is not unfair for the simple fact that 24 year old Pete and Simonsen have a lot of similarities. Pete was suspended more than once due to his behavior.  Want to say one time it was a 6 month and another time it was for an entire season.  My question is what is keeping the PBA from suspending Simonsen?  He has damaged bowling center property to which he basically shrugged it off by saying just take it the money to replace it out of my winnings. 

Another thing I wonder is.......What about Storm and any other sponsors he may have?  Have to think it is in their contract that since he represents Storm Products that they have a right to terminate the contract if his conduct is not up to their standards.  Maybe if he loses some of the perks of his profession that he will then realize the consequences of his actions.  Or...maybe he wont.  But if the only thing people are going to do is stand aside and just offer their opinions about how he is acting, what incentive does Simonsen have to stop? 

I like watching Simonsen because you are not sure what he is going to bring whether it is the 21 mph frozen rope, slow hooking 5th arrow, or going to the backup ball. But the bottom line is that Simonsen does not yet have the maturity or "maple moxie" to handle the pressure of being one of the faces of the PBA.  Only thing missing from that telecast was Simonsen sitting with his blankie and sucking his thumb.

I'm pretty sure there has to be something in his contract (and possibly every rep's contract) regarding this, as they are representing the brand of the company as well as their own personal brand. The company can easily take those actions into consideration and either bring it up for grounds of terminating the contract or not renewing it.

Pete was lucky in that aspect because not only did he have somewhat of a decent rapport with Storm (at least that I can tell; don't know if Dick had anything to do with it), but when the former people at Micro$oft bought the PBA, they wanted to get to know the problem child, which not only saved the PBA, but Pete's career as well..

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2021, 10:28:42 AM »
Maybe one day, we all will make it to the level of being able to show emotions on TV. If you are at this level and not showing some emotion, when you are doing bad, that is a problem.

I've read comments like this one many times over the years. You can be engaged in what you're doing and show emotion without acting like a whiny douche. Nobody is saying that these guys need to be stone-faced and stoic. Most fans enjoy seeing the players get fired up. That being said, you can get fired up (for positive or negative reasons) and still maintain a degree of professionalism. Simonsen acted like a baby that day. I'm not saying he's a terrible person, and he's obviously an amazing bowler. Still, he embarrassed himself that day. Case closed.

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2021, 02:39:41 PM »
Maybe one day, we all will make it to the level of being able to show emotions on TV. If you are at this level and not showing some emotion, when you are doing bad, that is a problem.

I have actually been fortunate enough to bowl twice on local television in a local tournament series stepladder finals.  In one tournament I missed a 10-in.  Yes I was upset, but I just smiled and went about the task at hand.  In another broadcast I was not getting the ball reaction I wanted.  Again, I remained poised and just went about bowling. 

Just because you are on TV doesn't mean you are required to show emotions.  People on TV acting like Simonsen did are demonstrating their emotional immaturity/instability. 

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Re: Who was having a worse day?
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2021, 04:20:35 PM »
Maybe one day, we all will make it to the level of being able to show emotions on TV. If you are at this level and not showing some emotion, when you are doing bad, that is a problem.

With that, I also then say to look at Tom Daugherty's first TV appearance. The guy broke Steve Jaros' record for the lowest score bowled on TV. If anything he had an even worse day than Simo, and took it on to have fun. He lost horribly, but lost gracefully and had fun while losing. If anything, the big loser between Daugherty and Mika that day was Jaros, because Jaros held that record for a long time, as Jaros had the honor of bowling the highest and lowest scores ever on TV.. While he wouldn't be known for the 300, he would be known for the 100something he bowled. Daugherty pipped that into obscurity with getting 100 on the nose.

My point there is that Simo could have handled it better, especially compared to how Daugherty handled it.

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