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Ric Clint

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Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« on: September 27, 2009, 02:17:34 PM »
Just doing some thinking lately on this subject.

I have always prefered Particle balls for Heavy Oil, instead of Reactive. I have always gotten more overall Hook and Backend on Oily shots with Particle than I have with Reactive. Reactives (even when sanded) just slide and slide for me on Oil shots!

But now anything less than Heavy Oil, I will use Reactives and Pearl Reactives!

And with all the advances in Reactive Technology in the last 2 years... Reactives are becoming more and more stronger than ever! Roto Grip has mentioned the Peaks and Valleys in the Coverstock Formulation on their Cell line of bowling balls that actually grip the lane (similar to Particles) better than most Reactives in years past.

I have also heard others talk about how Reactives can now grip the lanes as good as Particles. And with all the talk about how Particle balls die earlier than Reactives, my question is... why are particles still being made?

Is there really a need for Particle Technology with these new "more aggressive" Reactives?

But for me, I still believe that Particles hook more in Oil than Reactives ever will (no matter what they do to the covers of Reactives)... for the plain fact that the Particles actually grip the lane better! Picture studded snow tires (Particles) versus Racing slicks (Reactives) = one grabs and one slides!

But company''s put out new Reactive balls every week talking about how well it hooks in Heavy Oil. And if I get on here and say, "How does it actually hook or grab the lane in Heavy Oil if it''s not Particle" ... I get slammed, blasted, smacked, stabbed, etc...

Sadly, there are very few Company''s that still produce Particle balls these days. I wish there were more!

But if this new "concept" about the newer Reactive balls being as strong as Particle balls in Heavy Oil is true... then why is there 2-3 Company''s that still keep making Particles for their Heavy Oil ball? Why don''t they just make them Reactive instead?

Is it because these 2-3 company''s don''t buy into the "hype" that Reactives work better than Particle on Heavy Oil? Or is it some other reason?

The following company''s still have Particle as there Heavy Oil ball:
AMF has the Mega Friction
LaneMasters has the Black Diamond
Visionary has the Ogre Particle

Thoughts???




Edited on 9/27/2009 11:45 PM

 

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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 10:36:35 PM »
I think you will see particle make a comeback just like urethane.to be honest I feel I don't need a particle ball for heavy oil as long as there's some dry at the end of the pattern.the heavy oil reactives do a good job on that type of shot.I bowl in this one house where the shot is med oil at best with a heavy OOB but the oil pushes down bad and you can watch the reactives hook in the mid lane and then skid in the last 15 feet.the only answers I've found with this house was to move real deep and roll a 12mph belly shot so the ball rolls out before the carry down or the better option is to use particle.

I have one particle ball that has been fantastic for almost any condition.knock it down with 1000 abralon and it's an oil eating monster.bring the cover up with some rough buff and it's a great med oil control ball and polish it up real good and it's a lite oil ball that won't jump or hook early but still carries a ton.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 10:43:42 PM »
There are quite a few balls produced that are particle they just don't tell you that they are particle.

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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 10:52:19 PM »
I have ultimate success on anything fresh with a particle ball. They start up earlier and smooth out the overreacton that I see so many times with a pearl or even solid reactive.

My arsenal includes MANY particle balls.

My fav particle is the G-force Nebula, followed very closely by a pair of Enriched Uraniums, and a Gold Nugget. The activator covers of the pearl Uraniums I am thinking are particle too.... (light load)

These are by far the 1st balls outta my bag in the last few seasons. I have tried the newer stuff, but cannot get the consistancy out of it. After 2 games I pull out the pearl reactive Emerald and that (most nights) is all I need.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 11:30:01 PM »
And I forgot the new Track 930T Heavy Oil ball... some say it is Particle (it's labled as "mica", but some say Particle).



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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 11:34:19 PM »
I personally wish they would cool it on new equipment. Stronger this stronger that, enough already.

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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 11:50:11 PM »
It is all in what you think it is. Particle was first advertise as a new cover that doesn't over read the lanes and have the big skid snap of reactive but hooks more then urethane. Urethane on steroids if you will. Then like everything it became the biggest hooking of the biggest hooking.

Many balls to day are combinations. Reactive/particle/pearls and ect. For me just plane particle bowling balls were ok. I've had just as much luck and hook with reactive as I have with particle in heavy oil.

How you throw the ball may have something to do with it as well. Dull reactive for me never ends well. It rolls sooner but of course has a weaker backend, same for particle. But shinned reactive rolls great for me. My latest ball the Jigsaw out of the box was lightly dull and rolled okay, but after I polish it, it became a beast.

For me the best particle ball I ever had was the Brunswick Plum Power Groove which was a particle pearl. Very clean through the front and extremely strong on the backend. Great for heavier oil.(for me)

I think where most companies are going with this technology is coverstock combinations. Some companies have the info in the fine print, some don't on what the cover actual is.

Brunswick if you check their website on a lot of equipment tell you in the ball info about these combinations they use. Of combining their covers.

Python info from website

"Pearlized version of the EnMotion coverstock. EnMotion combines the best elements from our PowrKoil™, Activator® and N'Control™ coverstock systems."
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 02:14:54 AM »
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There are quite a few balls produced that are particle they just don't tell you that they are particle.


Yup - mainly because of marketing. "Particle" sounds old and outdated, with all the hype about textured reactive surfaces. Consequently, its presence is dropped. But I am not sure if this move is actually useful for the players?
 
Still, I hope that particle will last, because I am also a fan of the unique reaction I get out of such pieces. I find the mechanical traction thorugh the additives easier to handle and tune than an overall aggressive, spongy reactive coverstock. Might be my style (stroker, med revs, lower speed), but I still have to find a "modern" strong reactive that actually works for me.

On the other side, I think some particle balls are simply still around because some smaller companies can not (or do not want) to spend a lot for coverstock technology research, or (like in LMs case) particle technology is just a trademark of their brand.

Anyway, I am eagerly awaiting the revival of particle additives in a kind of "Particle 2.0". I am sure it will come, sooner or later.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 08:00:00 AM »
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There are quite a few balls produced that are particle they just don't tell you that they are particle.


I like this, I beleive alot of commpanies are using particle nin their covers, solid ones especially, only not letting us know about it.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 09:29:16 AM »
Ric,

You are also making the major assumption that particles are only for use in heavy oil to help a ball to hook. That has not been true for a long time now. There have been many balls that have used particles, for much less than heavy oil, just to give you a different look and feel in the ball reaction.

The major use for particles other than for handling true heavy oil has been in the area of polished and matte finished pearlized particle. Balls, like the Storm Shift and the current Lanemasters Buzz Attack and Black Pearl, are there to give different looks for medium to medium-heavy oil lanes. Lanemaster future ball, the Xtreme Damage, will also be a particle pearl.

Roto-Grip even put a 1% load of particles on the medium-light oil ball, the Venus.

As for your true solid heavy oil particle ball, you also left out the 900Global Bounty Hunter, which has 3% load of particles. The Storm 2nd Dimension uses Mica, like the Track 930T, but is a polished pearl resin, using large particles of mica to help prevent it fom skidding too far.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 09:30:36 AM »
I like particles, especially my pearl particle Shift.  The most consistent & predictable I ever had.  Can use it on almost any condition.  But I think the hybrids are supposed to be similar or am I wrong about that?

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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2009, 09:46:06 AM »
Roto Grip and Storm put particles in a whole array of different balls that they produce. They just don't advertise it as much.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2009, 10:08:25 AM »
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There are quite a few balls produced that are particle they just don't tell you that they are particle.



I like this, I beleive alot of commpanies are using particle nin their covers, solid ones especially, only not letting us know about it.




I think some bowlers associate "Particle" as a bad ball. To them it means high maintenance and short life span. There were plenty of those in the past. I am sure companies are staying away from the word.
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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2009, 11:43:29 AM »
And all this time I thought that the word for this was "Ebonite", not "particle".



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 To them it means high maintenance and short life span.

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Re: Why are Particle balls still being produced?
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2009, 11:45:59 AM »
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And all this time I thought that the word for this was "Ebonite", not "particle".



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 To them it means high maintenance and short life span.



Bah duh boom, LOL!!  Good one.