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OddBalls

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Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« on: March 09, 2011, 02:46:49 AM »
Here's mine that I heard from someone in the BR community..

 

The filler and the cover are made out of two different materials. As the ball cools down or heats up, the expand and contract at different rates, thus creating stress on the covers that do crack. Of course, the more rapid the temp change, the faster the ball will crack.

 

I've noticed on some of my older equipment, the coverstock is pretty thick and NONE of those have cracked. I even had a Turbo X that was sitting in my garden fully exposed to the elements for over two years before I rescued it. I change the inserts, had it resufaced and it's gold..

 

Whats your take???

 

I'm certain it's not manufacturer specific, because I've had just about every make of ball crack on me


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 10:55:36 AM »
I think my answer is the same, RAPID temperature change.  Also, I think that it's the same thing as with vehicles, some are deemed as "lemons".  I think the same thing applies to bowling balls, just the variance in different pours.  I could never prove that but that would be my hypothesis.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 11:15:33 AM »
I have to have a ball crack before I can answer.  Apparently, I've been very lucky.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 11:17:37 AM »
Other than severe treatment, I have no idea.  I've had 3 balls crack.  The first was a Storm (urethane) Thunderflash.  The cover was at least 5/8" thick.  It wasn't used a ton, but the ball did crack through the plug work.  Urethane doesn't absorb much oil, so the "removing oil from the causing brittleness" doesn't apply even if it had been de-oiled, which it hadn't.  The other two were 900 Global Creatures.  The first looked like the core wasn't put in the mold correctly when they poured the cover.  Near the fingers, the cover was very thin, but the bottom of the ball had a much thicker cover.  The second was I found two weeks ago.  I was getting my equipment ready for a tournament and found the ball cracked from the top of my middle finger around the ball to the bottom of the thumb slug.  I don't use finger grips, so glue isn't the problem.  Everything has bevel so that's not it either.  Neither ball was old or had more than 50 games on them, so it's hard to blame oil or abuse.  Everything is kept on my ball rack or the carpet beside in my den.  A little "spider webbing" can be ignored or fixed, but a crack from end to end is a killer.  I just don't know.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 11:35:33 AM »
There is a post on the SASBA.com Message board about this.   The chemist on there says the balls haven't cured out in a controlled atmosphere.   Probably still curing when it's drilled.   All those little molecules still trying to find their place.



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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 01:05:21 PM »
I just lost my 2nd RSX on Sunday. Granted both balls are 07 balls but they cracked about 18 months apart. From what I can see it almost looks like the filler core is shrinking causing the crack. RSX no.1 is sitting on the mantle since it was my 300 ball and the crack has gone from about an 1/16th of an inch to about 3/8th of an in wide in the last 18 months, so something is still changing even though the ball is in a controlled climate.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 01:59:49 PM »

 +1 .... I have never had a ball crack, so I guess I can be considered lucky so far (knock on wood)



joecar78 wrote on 3/9/2011 2:09 PM:
i personally think its just crap luck...all my balls stay in the same enviorment a few cracked but most didnt, just bad luck.




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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 02:02:01 PM »
I have heard that the high density weight blocks nowadays can sort of push through the cover if it sits in the same position for extended periods of time.  Other than that, throwing the ball when it is cold will crack it.  The thing is, sometimes a crack can start as a hairline crack on the underside of the coverstock and not actually crack all the way through until weeks later, thus causing some confusion on what actually caused the crack.  I'm not sure, that's just my perspective.

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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 02:03:32 PM »
I think it is a gravitational imbalance caused by the impending great cosmic alignment.

 

 Or bad luck.

 

Either way its cracked.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 02:10:20 PM »
I'd suggest 2 other possibilities.
1. Curing, as already mentioned
2. Driller error
 
1. The old Columbia300 San Antonio plant being near desert conditions, seems to have had problems with the curing rate. 900Global seems to have reduced that rate greatly since they took it over after the sale of Columbia to Ebonite. It still happens ocassionally
 
2. Drillers still do lazy or ignorant things, like
- using too much super glue on inserts (it seems tomake the resin coverstock brittle)
- drilling with dull bits, creating too much heat, again making that area of the resin sensitive to cracking.
- not beveling all holes.
- placing the pin too close ot holes (1/2-3/4" seems to be the minimum safe distance, or putting the pin in the center of a hole also seems to be safe.). Putting the pin close to the hole is never a good idea.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 02:23:59 PM »
I have had 2 balls crack on me both Ebonite. Both were sitting in my basement which is always a decent temperature. Ive tried to crack my T-Road pearl which already had a small crack in the bridge and it wouldnt break, I heated it up in the sauna then tossed it in the freezer overnight then dropped it on a concrete floor a number of times while frozen and nothing.

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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 03:17:00 PM »
My guess is two parts.

 

Glue, and temperature.

 

 

The reason I say glue is from something I have observed over the years. I used finger inserts for years and many of those bowling balls did crack out. (starting from the fingers) They were kept in my bedroom or office and only exposed to the elements while going to and from the center. One ball was two years old before drilling, and was barely used before cracking all the way around the ball while sitting on the floor of my bedroom.

 

In 2001 I went away from finger inserts. Since then I have drilled many times more bowling balls then with inserts and only had one crack.(from the thumb, it was a bonanza 2 ball) Nothing else I have owned has ever cracked since going to inserts.

 

My brother still uses inserts, drills far fewer bowling balls and has had several crack. All start at the fingers.

 

Finial thoughts. When gluing inserts and thumb slugs always try and get the glue well below the outer surface(coverstock) of the ball. I think from what I have observed that the glue plays a big part in why so many bowling balls crack, usually around the fingers first. Even glue that says it is suppose to not cause cracking.

 

This is from observing many bowling balls that were not exposed to the elements.


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 04:25:40 PM »
Maybe it's the curing process?  Maybe it's a bad batch of resin?  Maybe it's improper mixing in the factory?
 
From my experience I've seen several cracking issues with Track from around the 2002-2003 time period.  These weren't full cracks, but cracking around the fingers and pin - not originating from the finger holes or pin, but more like arcs around them.  I saw this problem in a Thrash (2003), Threat (2003), EZ Money (2002), and Phenom Unleashed (2003).
 
My pro shop was cleaning out his back room and had a bunch of older stuff.  He let me look through it and I did see a lot of cracked balls....there were a few that stood out because they were all the same balls.  I don't remember all of them, but I do remember seeing quite a few Brunswick Avenger Urethane balls.   All had split in half.

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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 06:23:43 PM »
Would the thickness of the covers make a difference? Most balls seems to be pretty "thin-skinned" these days. Has anyone had their LaneMaster balls or other balls with thick, deep coverstocks have cracking issues?


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Re: Why do balls crack?? Your theory??
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 07:49:34 PM »
+1 .... on the gluing the inserts away from surface as mentioned by kidlost. I always try to glue mine in the filler area. Sometimes a wee bit of glue may squeeze into the cover part of ball, but still well below the surface and close to the filler area. I use the gel type glue in the Locktite brand in the squeeze bottle which allows me to put the tinnest drop of glue down in the finger holes.


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