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DP3

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I don't mean for this topic to be so self oriented because I know I'm not the only person with this problem, but I have yet to see a post dedicated to it.

When I first started out bowling, in YABA leagues in 1995 every week was pretty much a pot luck to whether or not the lanes would be done, if they got done at all, resulting in choppy conditions, burnt heads leftover from all of the action of friday, or in some cases, 15 feet of oil just to protect the heads and whatever else was out on the lanes past that(in most cases, nothing.)  This seemed to hold true to many of the houses in the area for the youth programs thus resulting in many youth bowlers growing up through years in the program(with a lack of volunteer coaching) to develop poor habits in order to combat the shot, or lack thereof.  Helicopter releases, no-thumb releases, backup balls, 10-15 feet of loft through the heads, and knuckleballs were all prevalent due to the fact that it seemed like a normal up the back roll with 45 degrees of rotation just never worked if you wanted to hit the shot.  Your ball would just hook off the lane no matter what you used, or you would never get a consistant reaction.  I believe this is what has caused my awkward release.  

Starting at about 1998-99 I began traveling out of the state doing tournaments like the JBT and other youth tournament clubs and I noticed how solid the mechanics and how much better the bowlers looked and scored outside of our bowling district.  I was in awe of how good alot of these bowlers were(some of whom are now very successful professionals and top amatuers in the country, namely Michael Fagan, Adam Subach, Bill O'Neill, and many many great college bowlers).  So that is what gave me my competitive drive, but then again, due to a lack of coaching when I returned back home I had no way of developing a physical game that mirrored what seemed to be successful out there, the only practice I had was accuracy and spare shooting drills by myself and I deem that the only reason I can stay somewhat competitive as a bowler with those who are better than me.  

To describe my release, it's on the borderline of a tweener/spinner.  I have a very low track which comes out to PAP measurements of 3 3/4 right and 3/4 up, but my Track Diameter is like the same measurement of a common power player or tweener at 10 1/2 inches which can sometimes cause me to clip weightholes in the thumb-positive quadrant.  Doing this for almost 10 years has screwed up my muscle memory to the point that it's almost impossible to change my release, and when I do raise my track, there is no tilt whatsoever on the ball, just end over end roll which gives no reaction(but works great when shooting spares, so thats the release I use for spares).  SO with those coordinates, I'm just now finding out what layouts work for me and most of the layouts have negative pin and or c.g. placements just to fit into my PAP coordinates(most look like lefty drills, so what may be a 5 1/2 x 5 drill for most players with the pin over the bridge and C.G in palm, relates to something like a 4 x 3 1/2 for me which is still too strong) I've spent a long time reading anything I can and practicing on changing this release to comething more condusive to the environment since I'm tired of being stuck in the 190-199 range of bowlers when I know I have the potential to be much higher.

Moving to a new house to bowl league, the shot is so dramatically different(and easy) from anything I've ever seen.  There is a super heavy concentration of oil in the middle which provides for unlimited tug room, and virtually no oil outside of the 5 board which provides for unlimited room to miss right.  With a good lane surface and exceptionally clean backends it's just too extreme wet/dry for me, but everyone else in the house that is more up the back of the ball with end over end rotation can hook the ball as much as they want(regardless of poor mechanics or a lack of knowledge of the game) and still average in the high 2-teens, low 220s.  We even have about 7 guys in the 230s, but only 2 or 3 actually have the potential of maintaining an average that high in any house or condition as they are prominent scratch players and/or regional pros.  But then again, even some regional pros are struggling in the low 200s simply because the shot is "Too-Easy" making for such wet-dry hell.

After a coaching analysis I was basically told that if I wanted to "Get any better", I was going to have to change my release, that's the only thing holding me back on conditions like the typical house shots because due to my release and revrate it reads dry so much quicker than the normal player and it is so sensitive to lane transitions whereas a "Normal semi-roller"(and I'd hate to use the term "normal") can go 5-6 games straight on a condition like this adjusting maybe 2-4 boards whereas I have to adjust 15-17 boards per league night and go through 2 or 3 ball changes a night due to how my ball reads the condition, yet on a sport pattern or tougher condition I can average close to what I average on the THS because I can repeat a shot, keep the ball in play from many angles, and have a good spare game.  But my game is just not pivotal on such easy conditions because I can't maximize my area on the lanes without seeing such dramatic reaction and lane transitions the whole night while guys can just stand left and throw right from the same spot all night and strike away.

Is this really the direction bowling is heading in and I really need to adapt, or do I just still work on being more consistant in repeating the shot/release/speed and work diligently on my accuracy and spare game like I've been doing the past 4 or 5 years?  I'm so confused at this point that I really am contemplating quitting(but everyone knows that's impossible).  I just have no idea what to do to take my game to the next level.  Should I just quit league bowling and devote 12-15 hrs a week to practice then play tournaments and such?  Any and all suggestions are welcomed, and thanks for reading.
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Edited on 3/1/2005 10:20 AM

 

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Hey DP3:

I understand your points but I agree with the coaching analysis.  You have to adapt.  Your frustration reminds me 9 years ago when I quit for 4 years.  At the time, rev rate was very high and my axis rotation was around 70 degrees (ala Pete Weber) and I was experiencing severe over/under.  I was forced to throw Beasts and urethane because of the low amounts of oil at the time (the oil hadn't caught up to technology yet).  I got frustrated and quit.  But returned 4 years later with a new mindset and that was adapt or die.  Made lots of physical, grip and mindset changes to allow me to be able to compete on a variety of conditions, including typical THS.  It's an ever work in progress and I'm still making changes because my release is still a little sensitive to wet/drys.  I'm trying to cut down on the rotation to read the transistions better and to not have to make such drastic moves.  Look at Barnes this year.  He's having a great year and his rotation seems to be less than it used to be (at least on TV and when I watched him a the US Open).  Lane to lane moves are better and over/unders are minimized.


There's no reason you can't develop a release that will allow you to score well on Sport Shots and take advantage of the wide open shots too. You just have to accept that the shot is what it is and you need to figure out how to score relative to the pattern.   If it's wide open, strike with them.  If it's tough, spare with them.


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As with all things its improve or go stale.
An example is Tiger Woods, he was the best and still is in my eyes. He set all kinds of records and then started again. Hes only just getting everything working now after 2 years.
I know you dont have time to go that far. But if youre anything like me youll always try to stretch yourself as far as you can.
I have a decent game due in big part to starting the right way with coaching.
I know it seems like a big thing for you, but with a good coach youll soon be able to work out most problems.
Look at it as a challenge and dont worry that youre average may fall for a while. Read Thongprincess' post about her recent changes and believe in yourself. Thats the biggest thing because youve seen that you need a change, now you just need to let yourself do it.
Good luck in the future.
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We all have faults and that is why we work on our game to get better. Your release is not pretty to look at but working on it gives you confidence and hope that there is something better out there for you. As far as Millsboro, I would not let that house destroy your confidence in your game because it's a cake house. Half the bowlers would drop off avg wise considerably if somewhere where they actually have to work. Sadly, however, you are right; the game is heading in that direction. Help those who can't help themselves or are too lazy to put in the sweat, blood, and tears to make themselves better. However, the real game is not determined on a THS so as I said before, I would not worry about it. Just keep working and I look forward to seeing you next semester as the UMES mens team shock the world.
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Thanks alot from those so far, Star, Tony, and James.

I know Rome wasn't built in a day so everything is going to take alot of hard work and patience(which is hard for me because I'll admit, my patience wears thin when I don't see reward from a positive action), but I will try my hardest.  

I'd like to personally say thanks Tony for all the help and support over the years, one day it'll all come together for me.

James, you're a young student of the game that understands alot of concepts.  I think sometimes it might be best for you though when learning something new to do your research and analyze and listen more before you really jump out there, and everything will fall into place how it should.  I can see you're working on getting better and hopefully you see the reward from that.  See you at practice later on tonight.

Star, thanks for the observations from overseas I read the post and it helped put things into perspective alot.  I'm currently printing out some articles from bowlingfans.com and rollrite.co.uk so thanks for that.

anymore insight would definately be appreciated br users.
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DP3,

   I dont know where you are or where you want to go with your bowling. Bowling on THS is simply a matter of matching technology with your current style and you will produce scores. Alot of 200 - 230 bowlers do this today. And despite those averages they are a product of todays enviornment.

   To take it to the "next" level is all about developing and perfecting tools to place into your tool kit. For example the ability to decouple rev rate with ball speed so that can maintain a 375rpm throwing it 16mph or 18mph, or the ability to alter your axis tilt and rotation, or being able to loft 9" 12" 24" or being able to point it straight at the pocket or swing it coast to coast. These are the things that the "BIG DAWGS" can do with great consistancy.
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DP3: I can relate fully to your frustrations with adapting your style and trying to hit the THS while not sacrificing your game for the tougher flat/ sport shot conditions you face. I have a similar PAP (my driller thinks mine is 3 3/4 right, 7/8 up) and I have a track diameter of 10 inches. This year bowling more often on a THS Monday nights, it's forced me to play the lanes at a faster speed (usually between 17-18 mph) with a medium level control ball (my Hot Wire has been working very well on this shot) playing usually a down and in line (outside 7 to about 2 or 3 board) with a low and long release, subscribing to the less is more philosophy.

I think in today's bowling environment you need to have all sorts of tricks of the trade and know when to use them. You have excellent knowledge when it comes to your game and layouts/ coverstock combinations that should work on most conditions. I think you need one or two balls that you drill out exclusively for that THS and stick with them, and seeing what works best for others probably using something milder or with more control would work better based on your game for this shot then probably skid/snap or leveraged equipment.

I found a coach who has helped my game immensely- he doesn't bowl in any houses I normally bowl in and he has given me pointers when it comes to hand releases and ways to play the lane to combat carrydown and still score effectively without having to change balls all the time. Sometimes a minor adjustment in hand position, the way you hold the ball in your approach, the line you are playing in your stance, or a combination of things can help out.

Continue to work on accuracy drills and your spare game. Most of the tournament conditions you'll see will pay dividends as you are able to keep your scores in the ball game while others may struggle. I never thought I'd be able to adapt my game to the THS, but this year I'm averaging the highest I've ever averaged on it because I've subscribed to watching the lane conditions and trying to adapt my game to what's given, without overthinking or overthrowing.

If you need more help/support, PM me...

Matt