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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: DON DRAPER on July 03, 2012, 11:23:08 AM
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Remember, tonight is the night.........7PM( CDT )......ESPN2
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should be good watching them bowl on desert sand
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let me set my dvr just in case. I will likely fast forward through most of it.
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Wow it really is that bad. I don't care how many times the announcers say these women are the best in the world and the conditions are tough, it is still bad tv. I'm a bowler and I will only watch a few more minutes, why would anyone else watch this garbage.
I was mad after two frames when they go to commercial then come back to be in the 7th frame. Now I know why, because it is horrible television. Someone should lose their job for this giant pile of sandy horse $hit.
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I noticed that too where they would cut away after the 3rd frame and then come back in the 7th. That was total garbage.
Another thing that is insane is that the lanes are destroyed to the point where Stefanie Nation and Shannon O'Keefe were actually throwing plastic and the balls are still hooking way too much. It got to where O'Keefe got rid of the wrist brace so she can get more revs on the DV8 spare ball by throwing it to the right in the 2nd match. So far with the highest score of 182, it's probably as nasty as it can get.
And now in match 3, Missy Parkin has also opted to go with plastic and is playing inside.
Kelly Kulick has opted for the same in match 4.
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What the hell are they bowling on? Did they oil the lanes?
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What the hell are they bowling on? Did they oil the lanes?
They did oil the lanes. However, the problem was that there was so much dust with the 15-25mph winds and temps in the mid 80's for most of the night that it basically stripped the oil out to where any resin ball would hook out the back. Plastic was being used since match 2.
Here's how it went:
Match 1
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Barnes: Wicked Encounter > Violent Eruption > Freeze hybrid
Nation: Oath > Eruption
Match 2
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Nation: Eruption > White Dot
O'Keefe: Zombie Spare
Match 3
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O'Keefe: Zombie Spare
Parkin: Pink/Black Bam
Match 4
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Parkin: Pink/Black Bam
Kulick: Red/Yellow/Orange Maxim
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I was informed that they women had the option of re-oiling between games but since it was not a unanimous vote, it was not done. Hence, the desert they bowled on.
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ESPN is running it. What did you expect?
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Seeing how much the plastic would hook with just the pancake blocks, I wonder how much worse it would have been with something like a Taboo Spare (gas mask core), Storm White Team Storm (optical block) or anything else similar. Either way, the lane conditions had to have been among the worst I've ever seen on tv.
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Plastic with any core is still plastic and would have been near identical.
Yes seeing the sand on the lanes I don't think it would have mattered much to reoil. Bowling is not intended for those conditions, and neither is the equipment. The lanes were playing such they could have used plastic in the first game since none of them could stay right of the head pin consistently.
Watching that makes we want to go bowl....in about 4 more weeks to get ready for the fall. I will happily stick with golf for now.
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Watching that makes we want to go bowl....in about 4 more weeks to get ready for the fall. I will happily stick with golf for now.
I am currently doing both. 1 league to just stay fresh and golf 3 or so times a week.
I know I thought the shot at my house was dry as heck. This made it look like it was flooded 50 feet.
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Someone who was there told me that they threw away the lanes after the disassemble because the lanes were so trashed they were no longer usable. Also most of the competitors after the match threw away their bowling balls since they were also no longer in good condition. I was told one competitor threw away 7 balls because between the practice and the bowling the balls were simply no longer able to used.
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Considering the equipment is free they can afford to do that. Sand and dust isnt too big or an issue id imagine but would require some good resurfacing. The lanes can also easily be refurbished and sold.
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That's just gotta be a rumor... If that really happened, it was poor sportsmanship on the bowler's part... A ball is not ruined over 1 or 2 matches unless the lanes were a blacktop or gravel driveway... Please...
Someone who was there told me that they threw away the lanes after the disassemble because the lanes were so trashed they were no longer usable. Also most of the competitors after the match threw away their bowling balls since they were also no longer in good condition. I was told one competitor threw away 7 balls because between the practice and the bowling the balls were simply no longer able to used.
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The DV8 spare ball is a viz-a-ball and can't be resurfaced unless you want a white ball!! The zombie imagine is just a picture and if you resurface you remove it and it leaves the white ball that it's applied on!! Who want to resurface a plastic ball when it's a $35 ball and easier to drill another. It would cost as much to recondition the lanes than to replace only four lanes!! Not many four lane bowling centers around that want reconditioned synthetic lanes!! Bad idea to have it outside without having some type of walls in place to cut down on the dust/dirt blowing around. At least when they held the PBA at Six Flags, they didn't have to deal with the dust/dirt, just heat!!
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lost 1 1/2 hours watching that garbage... I thought I had the wrong tournament, I was looking for the US Women's open and I found the Mark Roth Plastic ball tournament.
The telecast was a joke cutting away in the 3rd frame and coming back in the 7th, at 1st I was upset, but I guess they did us a favor by saving us the pain of watching. Some Major What a Joke.....
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It was horrible and I really feel bad for the ladies that put so much into a major to have the results determined by of all things, dust/dirt! When you see a plastic ball pick up that strong in the midlane and miss spares that those ladies could have picked up blindfolded on a normal condition, sport or house!!! For them to cut out parts of the matches really did us a favor!!! Congrats to the ladies for still smiling after enduring those conditions!!
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Why would it be poor sportsmanship to throw away the bowling balls after the event was over. The bowling balls were all messed up.
You should see the picture the lane man took of the lino duster cloth after they were done bowling. It's a complete mess.
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There is the lino cloth, now you tell me what you think.
Info from the PBA's lane man and other individuals. - "This is the picture of the duster cloth on the Envoy lane machine - taken by Mark Sabatine, after the Finals of the Women's US Open were completed on the streets of Reno! He said it was so coarse that the lane surfaces were rendered unusable in the future."
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They also had a meeting with the women and took a vote on re-oiling the lanes between matches once it was apparent that there might be some oil vs. outside factor issues.
It became very apparent during the end of the ladies warm up sessions on the lanes that the oil was evaporating at an alarming rate and the lanes were getting very dusty as the winds kicked up.
At this time the women were still able to somewhat get their reactive resin balls down the lane, as what you saw in the beginning of the 1st match.
The women voted NOT to re-oil the lanes and to play the lanes as is.
Thus you have the results of the vote.
Would things of been better with re-oils? Probably.
When the AMF World Cup was in Egypt outside, the tournament re-oiled the lanes after each match.
So there was some type of "history" already with such problems.
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So seeing the dirt and sand on the lanes that is on the above picture you think running an oil machine over that would have made it better?
My guess it would not oil correctly, damage the oil machine and still end up with really low scores because the shot would not have been anything worth a damn.
Likely what ever jacked up shot would have been relayed because of the conditions on the lanes would still evaporate in a matter of frames not games as we plainly saw. At least when the lanes are that dry you know what the reaction will be. If only bowling could be held indoors.
Maybe next time they can hold the event some where that is below freezing.