Author Topic: Why do they say Walter Ray has low revs? (Read 1431 times)

Ric Clint · « **on:** February 14, 2004, 01:38:32 PM »

I mean, he can hook the ball with the best of them sometimes. And he keeps his wrist cupped throughout the entire armswing and actual release... so how can a man have low revs if he keeps his wrist cupped?

Doesn't make sense to me???

And it looks like he he is just absolutely ripping the cover off the ball!

Edited on 2/15/2004 5:41 AM

T-GOD · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2004, 04:48:10 AM »

Because you need to "un-cup" your wrist at the bottom of your swing, in order to get maximum revs/leverage.

Haven't you seen bowlers wearing a Pro Release, or other wrist devices, with it cupped..? They don't have many revs, do they..? =:^D

Ric Clint · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2004, 05:05:12 AM »

Come again?

It's kind of late, so I guess that's why your reply post is not registering in my brain?

I know that some guys like Chris Barnes cup their wrist and then at the bottem they break it back and snap it to make it hook like crazy... but Wlater Ray looks like he is keeping his wrist cupped all the way through the release with no breaking his wrist back.

Maybe I'm missing the "point" in your post... it's late here.

tenpinspro · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2004, 05:18:51 AM »

Hi Ric,

He actually doesn't have low revs, he just has more speed to his revs so it goes straighter then others, plus he's up the back most of the time creating forward roll to go straighter.

Wrist action: You actually answered your own question...

Picture holding a baseball with your wrist broken and throw it with the wrist broken all the way thru...or you can even try it with your wrist cupped and hold that position all the way thru. Either way, there's no snapping wrist motion behind it which is what creates the revolutions on a spherical object.

The baseball goes from a broken wrist to cupped wrist to create revolutions correct? A bowling ball is the upside down version of this, cupped to broken. Hope this helps explain..
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charlest · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2004, 07:13:36 AM »

Ric,

Why do they say it? Because it's true.

WRW has low revs compared to the average PBA player; he has medium to just above medium, when compared to the average league player. Everything is relative. If you notice when he does play inside and uses a larger hook, he cups his wrist more, keeps his finger further inside and comes around the ball more, with slightly slower speed then when he pipes the ball up the gutter, as he does on many TV shows. You will see this better if you watch his qualifying and match play because he has to play a wider variety of styles due to transitioning oil patterns. FYI you will also see versatile players like Norm Duke and Chris Barnes doing similar "magic".
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Doc Hollywood · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2004, 08:47:49 AM »

Ric - If you played with a yo yo before then you would understand that if you really want the yo yo to get a lot of revs you start with a cupped wrist and then uncup it quickly snapping the wrist down as you release the yo yo. The same holds true when you bowl if the wrist is cupped and just before release the thumb comes out and the ball rolls off your hand as your hand uncups you will see a lot more revs.

As to WRW his speed overpowers his rev rate moreso than other players. Other players are more equal speed to rev rate ratio. You also don't see the big hook because of his axis rotation.
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BadShot · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2004, 10:18:43 AM »

go back to your cave, bahball . . .
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Phillip Marlowe · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2004, 04:20:22 PM »

I think I agree with Rick. He doesn't have low revs, he has a style that in fact generates loads of revs. What he doesn't have is a high degree axis rotation or much axis tilt. In essence, his style is hit the ball hard, but instead of "spinning" the ball to one degree or another, he rolls it just about straight end over end. To compensate for this end over end roll, which leads to minimal hook (not really minimal revs) he has to throw the ball pretty hard to get it through the heads and midlanes so that it won't roll out.
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