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Tenpinrufer

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Wood vs Synthetic
« on: February 01, 2005, 11:45:26 AM »
I know this is an old argument/discussion, but after bowling exclusively on synthetics for almost a year, I feel that synthetics will ruin this game. It has made it unbelievably easy to bowl. It used to be when you shot a 681 you had a pretty good night. Now most times I am not in consideration for any pots or brackets in a mixed league. I have seen all averages rise to numbers never before seen. And lets not even talk about the left side. The lefties in my house are getting fat because they never, I MEAN NEVER, have to move or adjust. Whatever good line they find is there all night. I am a tweener and I used to be able to play inside of the majority of the right handers. Now that is very difficult with synthetics. Now to play inside I have to resort to being a stroker, because I am no cranker. I know getting good scores is always fun, but when people with ZERO hand have closed the gap considerably, I don't consider this fun. Maybe a sport shot would be good for me. It would put my average down to a 195, but it would slaughter the people with ZERO hand. What do you think?????

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a_ak57

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 07:48:34 PM »
Sounds more like you have problems with the pattern like a lot of us, not because of lane material.
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Tenpinrufer

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2005, 07:58:45 PM »
Andy,
      My average has gone up like everyone else's. I just see people that have half a thought of how to bowl hitting the pocket with extreme regularity. I just don't see how making these scores so high makes this any more fun. I shoot 700 and it is no big deal.
-Scott-

P.S. - It took a while to learn the new patterns, but now I have them down pat. Synthetics have just taken a good portion of the lane away from me.

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2005, 07:59:02 PM »
Tenpinrufer,

This has absolutely nothing to do with synthetics vs wood. This has to do with the oil pattern put on the specific lane surface by the maintenance people or decreed by the cente rmanagement. They can put out a shot on synthetic or wood that's either dead easy, as you are now seeing, or one that's impossible for any one.

Just because you're seeing it on synthetics, don't blame the synthetics.
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a_ak57

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2005, 08:00:51 PM »
Ah, charlest said what i meant to say.  What you are talking about is the lane conditions, the oil pattern, not the actual lane material.
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Tenpinrufer

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2005, 08:11:53 PM »
Guys,
      Are you saying that synthetics are not easier than wood? There is less drying out on synthetics. More carry down though. I understand lane conditions and I took a year on different patterns before I made my judgement. I understand that on a flat shot the scores would be significantly lower regardless if it was wood or synthetic and that the stupid easy christmas tree pattern that we are bowling now is just that, stupid and easy. I am saying that if you took this stupid christmas tree pattern and put it on wood and then put it on synthetics, I am guessing the wood would average between six and eight pins lower league wide. That is a significant amount. I have watched this happen. Your thoughts???

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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2005, 08:33:28 PM »
Wood has things about it that make it harder to bowl on. For one, it gets way more beat up. It soaks up the oil much quicker then synthetics, BUT since it soaks up a lot of oil, there is USUALLY less carry down.
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Tenpinrufer

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2005, 08:34:35 PM »
Thank you, Bob. I thought I was going crazy. Here in Long Island, all of the houses have either just changed over or are in the process of changing over from wood to synthetic. We must be slow movers.
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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2005, 08:36:34 PM »
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Thank you, Bob. I thought I was going crazy. Here in Long Island, all of the houses have either just changed over or are in the process of changing over from wood to synthetic. We must be slow movers.
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Nah, the only 2 lanes that are within 20 mins of me are BOTH still wood.
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Tenpinrufer

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2005, 08:41:04 PM »
Hey Kid,
          Are you from L.I.? What Part? I am guessing your bowling center is in the process of changing over. There is much less upkeep with synthetic. The wood need to be tended to every year. New surfacing, new boards, repairs. Ask, I bet I am right!
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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2005, 08:42:11 PM »
He lives in Southeast PA and bowls in my league.  No, our centers are far from even thinking about switching.
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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2005, 08:43:22 PM »
Yea they are too cheap. (even though they are probably a multi-million dollar a year buisness) its more like a recreational center that happens to have bowling lanes.
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Tenpinrufer

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2005, 08:47:35 PM »
Try lighter fluid and a match. Then they will have to change over! (LOL)!!!!
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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2005, 08:59:58 PM »
LMAO! I dont think I'd get to bowl in it before I got sent away though!
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Re: Wood vs Synthetic
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2005, 09:51:24 PM »
I guess being that I bowl on all wood surfaces in two local houses, I would have to disagree that all synthetic houses would produce scores 6 to 8 pins higher per person's average than an all wood house. I'm averaging 226 in my Monday league in an all wood house that puts out a ridiculously easy THS. To win the city association tournament you needed to average 250 for 9 games to take scratch all events. I averaged 230.11 for 9 games and I finished tied for 9th place in scratch all events. I find it hard to believe that if I took the same conditions I see in my Monday league and put them on the latest synthetics that all things being equal in terms of a house that I would be averaging 232 to 234 for the year.

And yes, I see people all the time with zero hand, plenty of ball speed and plenty of area shooting 300's/800's on this shot. Unless the USBC demands stricter oiling procedures, expect the honor score numbers to remain steady for bowling...

Matt
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