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Speedburner89

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Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« on: July 17, 2005, 04:38:23 PM »
what would you guys elect as to being the worst big b ball to be released in the last 3 years? from my personal use, I would have to say the monster frenzy.
That ball just flat out s##ked. It soaked up oil like no tomorrow, was, i believe allot weaker in hook, than brunswick claimed it to be, it was dead after 90 games.

From what I've heard and seen the swamp monster has to be the worst ball ever to roll of the brunswick line.  This ultra high load particle ball (boy was that a stupid idea) ball got 99% bad reviews.  I found it funny that at first everyone loved the ball when they got it, and after 40 games or so, they were like WTF?! What, did they think the ultra high load of particles were gonna stick around forever. Another bad thing was the color! Puke green?! the only thing worse than that is turd brown! I almost died laughing when i read reviews about how people were experiencing chips and chunks of the coverstock breaking off of the ball  I think you can pick these things up for $25 NIB on ebay.  

If you owned the swamp monster I'd bet you any amount of money that the thing hasn't been thrown in a year!

Please, if you own any balls (don't have to be brunswick) that flat out s##ked, i gotta hear it
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2005, 12:44:00 AM »
from what i've seen, impulse zone.
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Speedburner89

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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2005, 12:59:23 AM »
Helibowl - anything that is beyond a low load particle in your mind should be an automatic no.  There is no shot out there so oily that you need the goliath.
I think it is just common knowledge that high low particles start up too early on the lane, and lack hitting power, they might work fine for you for a couple months, but after that the ball you once knew and loved is loooonnnnngggg gone.  the result is that you are left with a dull half hitting turd, with no real turn.  Hell, even my coach and two of my teammates are realizing that their UIs have died at 150 games tops.  Save yourself the trouble and don't buy a goliath.  if you are a dedicated brunswick supporter the strongest ball you should use is like an absolute, i have mine drilled with like a 5 inch pin, and thing stills hooks allot.
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2005, 01:08:50 AM »
THE ABSOLUTE ISNT A GREAT HEAVY OIL BALL!!!
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bowler257628

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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2005, 01:11:10 AM »
I am thinking about it and OOB like the strike zone and or Ultimate, it has no chance on really oily lanes. at least not as much as the other 2.
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Speedburner89

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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2005, 01:17:48 AM »
Dude, all i'm saying is that you can spare yourself the headache of the balls that die out quick.  Just take a fairly agressive ball and drill it up to rip the living crap outta the lanes. a 3 1/2 inch pin should do the trick.
and if you don't get what you want just add the weight hole for more kick.
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2005, 02:10:31 AM »
In my opinion, Intense Inferno
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2005, 05:17:41 AM »
Lack of knowledge and lack of experience is no reason to diss a ball.

High load particles and any dull ball used on oil will only work for just so long because they absorb oil like nobody's business. This means 2 things: they work great while they are treated correctly and they need to treated correctly you work right.

Every manufacturer will tell the wise bowler that balls used in any heavy oil condition need to have the oil or the platiscizer (Ebonite) removed and then be resurfaced to be kept in top notch condition. Brunswick SPECIFICALLY has stated here and elsewhere that you MUST treat the dull particle every 60 games and every solid resin every 90 games to keep it at peak efficiency.

If you're not willing to do that, then don't whine that your "toy" doesn't work any more. This whole scenario has been explained over and over again in the Coverstock Preparation forum. Look there for details that you missed in the manufacturers' own websites.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2005, 06:33:41 AM »
in the past three years i have owned and thrown the following brunswick bowling balls:


punisher
absolute inferno
nemesis
zone classic
ultimate inferno
raging inferno
monster slayR
inferno
monster frenzy
monster smashR
swamp monster
monster screamR
power groove reactive
raging red fuze

none of these can be classified as the "worst"---they all had their role depending upon the lane coditions. i never saw any of these balls "die" or otherwise quit working. as far as the swamp monster goes you have to be an informed customer. everyone knew it was a ball for heavy oil, however, if the surface was properly prepared and your style of play matched up you could use it on a fresh league shot. at one time mine was prepped with the white cerium oxide trizact pad( appx. 10,000 grit wetsanded ). this left the ball not dull but very smooth sanded. i shot a 300 game with the swamp monster prepped in this manner. not being a power player, if i want to open up the lane and swing the ball ,i need some help from the ball and the balls surface. it matched up great most of the time i used it. the only reason i got rid of these balls is because i get a new arsenal every year( or more often ).
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2005, 09:56:15 AM »
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Helibowl - anything that is beyond a low load particle in your mind should be an automatic no.  There is no shot out there so oily that you need the goliath.
I think it is just common knowledge that high low particles start up too early on the lane, and lack hitting power, they might work fine for you for a couple months, but after that the ball you once knew and loved is loooonnnnngggg gone.  the result is that you are left with a dull half hitting turd, with no real turn.  Hell, even my coach and two of my teammates are realizing that their UIs have died at 150 games tops.  Save yourself the trouble and don't buy a goliath.  if you are a dedicated brunswick supporter the strongest ball you should use is like an absolute, i have mine drilled with like a 5 inch pin, and thing stills hooks allot.
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<Dreaming of Me - Depeche Mode
<Loser - Beck
<Blackhole Sun - Soundgarden
<Stand inside your love - The Smashing Pumpkins


First of all, YES THERE IS! I have bowled on quite a few shots, where my Super Carbide, Swamp Monster, Reaction Arc, Super Carbide Bomb, Granite Gaygoyle, ect. didn't wrinkle! Maybe if you: 1) knew a little more about bowling, and 2) bowled on something harder than the Great Wall, you would know about shots like this. I bowl in a sport league, and when there is 50 units on the outside at 50 ft., well, you try getting your Absolute to budge. Can we say "another three outta the corner for Speedburner?"

Second, every type of coverstock has it's place. Pearl Reactive?  yep. Low-Load Particle? check.  High-Load Particle? yes sir.  Urethane? most definately.  

See, the problem is, is that nowadays kids just want the latest, greatest bowling ball, that works on every condition. These 14 year olds that are dedicated to throwing just Brunswick or Columbia or whatever...lemme tell you this...LEARN TO BOWL FIRST! I can guarantee that I can throw a ball from any company and score (except Manhattan Rubber....I'm not God!). My current arsenal has: Columbia, Brunswick, Visionary, Ebonite, Track, Morich, Lane#1, and Storm!

And finally...speaking of Brunswick, did anyone else catch this very quote...


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Hell, even my coach and two of my teammates are realizing that their UIs have died at 150 games tops.


UMM...wasn't the UI a...uhh....REACTIVE?!?

http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=2&BallID=501

Don't talk about what you don't know about!


PS...go ahead and bring your allowance next time you go to the lanes...I might be there to bowl ya
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BowlerKidR

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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2005, 10:24:00 AM »
bigwillystyle i agree with you, every ball has its place, and i think that it is completly stupid to think other wise. Think about it. The bowling ball companies are Extremly smart. IF they thought that a Highload particle ball wasnt worth the money of production and marketing, then why in g-d's name would they in their right minds make one? I mean yes the companies want people to bowl with their balls, but what a lot of people dont realise is that the bowling companies only produce products that will make them the most money.

For example. If brunswick (since thge topic was started about brunswick) had the option to make a super high load particle ball that would sell for $170 or a pearlised reactive that would sell for $200+. And they have smart guys that tell them that a good estimate of having 400 thousand of the high load particle ball sold and an estimate of having 150 thousand of the pearl reactive (due to having many pearl reactives out already), they would usually opt for the $170 particle ball because first off, soprt conditions can be and are swamps resultine in customers willing to buy, and secondly they can profit more off the ball.

I mean, i might be going on and on here, but if u just think about it, the bowling companies dont really listen to what the public wants as much as many of you think. They take into account what the customers want but more often they do what will cost them the least amount of money and bring in the most profit.
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2005, 12:05:18 PM »
A good friend of mine just had his Ultimate Inferno baked 3 times, then re-sanded, & it almost looks stronger than when he first got it.

There are 2 balls that never worked for me, 1 the Columbia 300 Icon 300, this ball was never more than a medium oil ball for me, dissappointing since I picked it up as a heavy oil ball.  Also, I didnt have any luck with the Storm Vertigo, never looked any stronger than my Absolute Inferno.

I also had coverstock issues with the Ebonite Predator, the red one.  This ball hooked like crazy the frist few games I had it, then it just faded away, never to return to anything close to where it started.

I'm not trying to slam any ball companys, I'm just stating that these particular balls did not work very well for me.
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2005, 12:25:07 PM »
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A good friend of mine just had his Ultimate Inferno baked 3 times, then re-sanded, & it almost looks stronger than when he first got it.

There are 2 balls that never worked for me, 1 the Columbia 300 Icon 300, this ball was never more than a medium oil ball for me, dissappointing since I picked it up as a heavy oil ball.  Also, I didnt have any luck with the Storm Vertigo, never looked any stronger than my Absolute Inferno.


On the conditions yo ubowl on, normally, there will be balls and drillings that won;t work for you. Hopefully with reading reviews, with consulting knowledgable people, like your own driller, the number of such balls will be kept at a minimum. Can't reduce them to zero, except ny luck.

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I also had coverstock issues with the Ebonite Predator, the red one.  This ball hooked like crazy the frist few games I had it, then it just faded away, never to return to anything close to where it started.


Probably an oil absorbing problem. Dull balls used on oil must be treated properly.

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I'm not trying to slam any ball companys, I'm just stating that these particular balls did not work very well for me.
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and that's the bottom line; some just won't work right for our release on the normal conditions (lane surface + oil pattern) that we bowl on.
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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2005, 12:41:38 PM »
Ok, my point being this post isn't just about particle balls.  The thing with the UI is that it is the strongest most agressive reactive brunswick makes 2nd only to this new strike zone.  (by the way, am i not seeing clearly, or does that ball have pink print on it?!)Believe me I've witness the death of three UIs,two of my teammates have dead balls that will never carry a ten, and my coach really lost his reaction with his UI, so he got a track slash like 6 months ago, which is hitting allot harder than his UI. Another thing you have to take into account is that some of us don't have the kind of money, to invest in whatever ball fills a slight gap in our game.  One guy who posted earlier said he owned like maybe 10 to 12 brunswick balls that came out within the last 3 years.  I myself have only owned three. Well two came out in the last three years now that i think about it.  Closing on two final notes: 1. The topic for this post is bad balls 2. I'm not a misinformed bowler (I've bowled league at 12 or13different houses each with a different shot within the past year.  

response to sparebowler - I live in Arlington Heights,45 minutes northwest of chicago , surrounded places i've bowled at include Elk Grove, Beverly Lanes, BZ Deer Park Glendale Heights Mt. Prospect Lake Hurst, Fair Haven, Sunset, River Rand, Waucanda (an 8 lane alley), 3D bowl, and Hawthorn Lanes (the only wall shot)
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<Dreaming of Me - Depeche Mode
<Loser - Beck
<Blackhole Sun - Soundgarden
<Stand inside your love - The Smashing Pumpkins
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thfonz98

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Re: Worst Ball from Brunswick in last 3 years
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2005, 12:45:03 PM »
good job staying on topic guys

ive only tried three, impulse zone(used at different houses) has been a dog for me vs. the UI and OI i had over a year ago.  First set i shot great with it but since then :confused:.
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