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Jeffrevs

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Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« on: July 29, 2003, 07:12:45 PM »
Lately my release has sucked! Not consistent, grabbing the ball, pulling it, etc, etc.....

I've been confirming my thumb pitches because I've been hanging up and not really coming out smooth all the time at release also.

QUESTION: Would a wrist brace (I don't use one now) help me to lock into a release position better, more consistently, then after a while, it would transfer to muscle memory and I could take it off ?

Does this make sense ?  Any and all thoughts please ! THX......

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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2003, 04:34:47 PM »
I have used an Original Robbys Revs for a couple of years now, it serves me well. Fits nicely after I modified it a little. With my skinny forearms (small boned but large hands) the large size needed the forearm part "squashed" a little with my large ChannelLock pliers. Also, I broke the spring for the up/down adjustments, begged Ebonite for some replacements, cut off the rivet they use for a pivot and replaced it with a stainless steel screw and cap nut. Better than new!

It is adjustable up/down in 4 positions so one can flatten out ones wrist for spares easily. Adjustable side to side for more or less turn etc. You can do just about anything with it you can do with your bare hand/wrist. Best thing, is it keeps you consistent in your hand wrist position without thinking about it. One less thing to worry about!
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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2003, 04:51:10 PM »
Jeff

I went to a wrist support about 3 years ago and my average went from a 197 to 170.  Then last year I took it off
off and my average went up to 182.  Still not where it should be but getting there.

Why did I stick with the thing so long?  It feels good.  I found I had an increase in revs and hook without doing
anything.  The problem?  I lost speed and control.  Looking back, I should have put it away after the first few
months, but like I said, it felt good and the increase in revs made me think I could figure it out.

Now I'm having to relearn how to make spares and start lifting the ball again.  I'm still having a problem getting
a good clean release but I think this will get better as my confidence returns.  Also, I'm playing with the thumb
pitch.  Using the support I had to go to a zero pitch or I would lose the ball on the downswing.

Just my experience.  Hope it helps some.

Oh, I was using the Moro support.












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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2003, 09:16:27 PM »
Oh the posts above show the current thinking!

Ummm, "I only used it when my wrist hurt".

Just while my hand hurts from beating up a hole  5 man opposing team, I'll be using it.  After that I'm back to my wrist brace free form.

Hardly a one except (dicnic) admitted he used it to bowl better!

When I switched to one a few years ago(original Robbies) it changed my game.

It allowed me the firmness to straighten out my hook and drive the ball to the breakpoint better and even on some less than steller releases, it helped me to get the ball to the pocket.

Now as soon as my carpal tunnel heals, yep, I'll be switching back!

Yep just as soon as I stop benching 400 for reps I think my wrist will heal and I'll be switching back, to throwing without one.

Yep!

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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2003, 11:12:20 PM »
Just a word of caution to those that are thinking of, or have just gone to an adjustable type brace: Cobra 3, Eagle 3, Robbie's Revs, Moro's, etc.
If you set the brace in a wrist cupped position, the more cupped the wrist, the more apt it is to change your span. If you already have a span that is on the longer side, it may now be too long. It is best to get your span checked with the support you intend on using, set in the position you would most be using.
This was brought to my attention by a well know driller at the Nationals, Mr. Heim.
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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2003, 06:50:59 AM »
Thanks to all......if you still want to drop opinions, please do...I'll report back when I "do" something......thanks again!
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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2003, 08:48:29 AM »
Lucky,

I guess I didn't give enough explanation in my post. I have to admit that the cobra 3 and cobra have helped me a lot. The main problem that I have is it has caused me to start throwing a semi spinner type ball. I used to have to be careful of my release because I would track over my thumb hole. Now the closest I can get my first ring is and 1-1/2 away from my thumb. I can bowl great on drier conditions but the more oil you put out the worse I get. It used to be the opposite when I bowled without a wrist band, good on oil but worse on dry.

I know it has to do with the finger extension after talking to Doug on the phone. At release I am rotating around my index finger. I have a Mongoose lifter but as someone said above, the finger strap is annoying. I will be trying something new here soon but I haven't decided what I want.

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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2003, 08:56:23 AM »
Kalannar,
have you tried a Revs or Revs II.  I've never liked the finger extension devices....

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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2003, 09:03:19 AM »
No I haven't yet. The pro shop that I go to here in town sells them so I will probably try one out. I went the Ebonite demo days last fall and they had some there that I tried but can't remember how well I liked them. Oops, I quess I have tried them. The lane that I was on was totally screwed up so nothing I threw moved, even the V2 Particle and Aggression. I will have to give these a try again. I was waiting for the new Strongarm to come out but I don't know if I can wait much longer, My Cobra 3 is falling apart. I had my original Cobra for 8 years and this one has fallen apart after 1-1/2. Let's just say I am not to happy with it. Luckily I didn't pay full price for it. Thanks Jeff.

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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2003, 09:31:10 AM »
Jeff and Folks,

Once more into the fray:
The manufacturers of these devices do even a worse job of tellign you what they are for than ball manufacturers tell you which ball is for which condition and for which bowler. Let me try a little.

There are 3 basic types of wrist/hand/finger devices:
1. Your basic basic (double word intended)
   These include the Mongoose Equalizer, the Scorpion and the Pro Release as examples. The support piece, usually a piece of metal cushioned in soft material, goes up the back of the hand to the first set of knuckles and down to an inch or two below the wrist. It keeps the wrist straight; some offer the ability to "force" a cupping of the wrist. (This is totally unnecessary in today's game, in my opinion.) Among the other benefits, besides helping support the wrist, is to reduce pressure on the thumb, thus allowing for an easy and quick release. It also permits a very consistent release. It's invaluable as a training device. The negative is it creates a dependency if you use it too often, unless you are in the middle of recuperation.

2. The model with a special support for the index finger.
   Example: the Cobra.
   This model helps add axis rotation, if you have too little. If you have a normal release, it will almost make a spinner out of you. All other benefits and negatives as in #1 apply.

3. The model that is #1 PLUS and extension that goes to the 2nd set of knuckles.
    Examples: Mongoose Lifter, The Eagle, Pro-Release Extended.
   The idea of this one is the opposite of #2. If you spin the ball too much or if you have too much axis rotation, this model helps you to roll the ball more and spin it less. All other benefits and negatives as in #1 apply.

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Re: Wrist Brace -Muscle Memory ?
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2003, 08:30:09 AM »
UPDATE:

Threw a few games with a Robby RevsII last night.  I like it...I noticed just a touch more revs , not much, so now I have 2 !! , ...but the consistency and smoothness in my release is exactly what I'm looking for !! EXACTLY!

Feels kind of strange just because I haven't used one in a while, but I like it and it seems to be just what I was looking for.

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