Author Topic: Yet another urethane Q (Read 5226 times)

Big Jake · « **on:** March 23, 2014, 05:36:14 PM »

Hello Bowlers,
My question is about todays current urethane balls that are out like the Motive "Tank", Storm "Natural Pearl", Storm "Super Natural", Hammer "Blue", and Rotos "Grenade".

I do have the "Grenade" which I love but I am interested in getting a stronger urethane if there such a thing...I'm thinking that Motive "Tank" is the strongest one out now but I dont know that why I'm in here asking...whats your guys/gals opinion??

Thanks, Jake

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2014, 08:04:12 AM »

I think any of the choices would be almost identical on the lanes if drilled the same and have the same surface applied to each.

Urethane no matter how aggressive no matter the surface does not like oil. You need some good friction to help the ball. Considering the conditions it is best for its similar to wanting the most aggressive plastic ball. The difference between the most and least will be minimal. Just something to consider.

amyers2002 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2014, 09:20:34 AM »

I am a little older and remember when urethane was the normal. I remember very well Hammer made a red sanded urethane blue sanded urethane and then a red and blue pearl polished urethane all were supposed to have different hook potentials. I believe the red and blue sanded urethanes had the same finish so there must have been some difference in the cover stocks unless it was just the cores were different. Does anyone else remember these balls?

txbowler · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2014, 11:42:28 AM »

Quote from: amyers2002 on March 25, 2014, 09:20:34 AM

I am a little older and remember when urethane was the normal. I remember very well Hammer made a red sanded urethane blue sanded urethane and then a red and blue pearl polished urethane all were supposed to have different hook potentials. I believe the red and blue sanded urethanes had the same finish so there must have been some difference in the cover stocks unless it was just the cores were different. Does anyone else remember these balls?

I owned all of them at some point, and yes they were different. Don't remember if it was coverstock hardness differences that did the trick or composition but they were different.

Big Jake · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2014, 02:25:11 AM »

People!!! I had asked out of the urethane's that are out today which is the strongest?? and btw, F 'loop_zero'

loop_zero · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2014, 02:58:01 AM »

Hahaha! Too funny. Sorry jake, for putting a mirror up in front of you. You had asked a valid question. It's just a shame that you felt the need to call some folks pieces of sh!t for asking you to clarify a few details. Your idiocy and horrible example of a 10 year old fighting, well it was just comical. All in all, save your money and just adjust the surface of your Roto. None of them will be a big enough difference to buy another. With all the money I just saved you I would recommend investing in anger management!

WOWZERS · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2014, 04:17:19 AM »

Jake,

Strongest up front (early rolling, handle tons of oil) but smooth on the backend or something that will retain energy, turn harder on the back (as hard as a urethane could turn) but needs the dry to help out?

I ask as anyone who had an AMF Hype (the black one) will tell you that ball out of box was super strong and could handle tons of oil, but do NOT expect it to turn much on the backend because A) its dull B) its a urethane and C) it used its energy in the front part of the lane.

A Motiv Tank is a step down for me from my Hype. Doesn't handle as much oil in the front (weaker) but can move more on the back (stronger there).

Although not a true 100% urethane, the Blue Hammer remake would get down the lane better than the Tank and Hype for me and had much more energy retained for the backend, making it the strongest of the three on the end fo the lane, but the weakest up front and could handle the least amount of oil.

So...back to the same question that Rico and others have asked....WHERE do you want it to be strongest? If you want something to roll early and handle a flood...AMF Hype. If you want something to get down the lane and have some pop on the back, Blue Hammer.

Once you answer where you want it to be strong others could probably help you out more.

Big Jake · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2014, 11:58:29 AM »

Thanks Wowzers...and loop_zero, Shut up, you'll never be the man your mother is and btw, people, while watching the PBA when it is on during the telecast Randy will say: and here is so and so's arsenal and the strongest in his bag is the (insert name) Mastermind. And not one person got in his face about his comment because it just goes without saying.

Big Jake · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2014, 12:07:35 PM »

loop_zero

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Man, so many times I have read responses by Big Jake and his compete over blown reactions. Not many people know but he has authored a book too! It was called "How to be a complete douche bag" it's a follow up his best seller "I'm an asshole that takes his shortcomings out on people he doesn't know!"

Where??? show me the responses... I am nothing like you!

avabob · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2014, 02:37:52 PM »

I think there is a big misunderstanding about hook and carry power. I have been throwing urethane in limited situations for almost 4 years now. The thing I learned quickly is that the last thing I wanted was to open up the lane. When I can be squared up outside 10 board my carry can be very good. When I have go away from the pocket my low rev rate killed my carry. High rev guys can get away with more out angle than me, but even their carry drops off significantly with urethane if they have to go away too much.

Bottom line urethane is what it is. Looking for something a bit stronger suggests to me you should be looking for something on the resin side that is weak. Example, I throw a blue hammer for my urethane. When it won't hit, I go to my blue vibe which is a very tame pearl resin ball. Those two are my low end dry lane or flat short pattern balls

loop_zero · « **Reply #25 on:** April 03, 2014, 05:04:43 PM »

Here is were you failed. Here is were you forgot. Here is were you freaked out. In case you forgot. I won't argue with you any more. But you are clueless. You've done this before, you'll do it again. Your a certifiable idiot jake. Sorry for getting annoyed with your lack patience and understanding. Someone asks you to clarify something and respond like this!

.I co-authored a book!!!!! dont you understand, well! dont you? bowling is more advanced then building rockets, yes, thats right you all are really stupid compared to someone like me because I co-authored a book and bowling is soooooo hard for all of you pieces of sh!t to understand!

Have a good one you boner