A spinner usually has a very low pap and I've seen some with pap around 2-1/2" over by almost 2" up, which places the pap closer to grip center than other bowling styles. With that being said I drill a lot of those with the pin left of middle finger for right handed bowlers. Hammer layout sheets are great about showing the different tracking styles, low, medium, and high tracks. As kidlost said, we need more info and you need to think differently when dealing with spinners. Just my $.02, Bruce