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Title: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: carlos on December 27, 2013, 10:27:02 PM
I never had a Cell and was wondering if it was equal to the original Virtual Gravity ? With that being thought about. Would the Hyper Cell be equal to the Zero Gravity ? Both originals seem to have been very sucessful. I'm thinking you couldn't go wrong with either. Thanks for any positive input. Carlos
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: billdozer on December 27, 2013, 10:37:56 PM
The hyper cell should have a way stronger cover than the zg.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 27, 2013, 11:02:38 PM
I don't know about the strength of the covers to each other, but the Zero Gravity has a reduced differential and higher RG than the regular Virtual Gravity.  The difference in numbers is significant!

REgards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: ccrider on December 27, 2013, 11:12:56 PM
Substantial how? Does this mean that the ZG will go longer and be more angular?
I don't know about the strength of the covers to each other, but the Zero Gravity has a reduced differential and higher RG than the regular Virtual Gravity.  The difference in numbers is significant!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 27, 2013, 11:34:21 PM
Great question!

I haven't seen it.  The core is the same shape as the original but I guess the densities are different.

Most of the balls I have that have that type of same core shape but higher rg lower diffs, have ended up having less midlane when drilled the same as the original.
The smaller diff has often led to less total recovery.  All these thoughts based on the same drilling.

I may have mentioned I have a son who has a very nice and unsung Hot Rod Super Sport Pearl(now dull) with very similar specs as the new ZG.  He uses it as quite a one two punch with his original Virtual Gravity.

Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: charlest on December 28, 2013, 06:12:54 AM
I never had a Cell and was wondering if it was equal to the original Virtual Gravity ? With that being thought about. Would the Hyper Cell be equal to the Zero Gravity ? Both originals seem to have been very successful. I'm thinking you couldn't go wrong with either. Thanks for any positive input. Carlos

Don't see it. Just the ball specs are so different.

Hyper Cell has lower RG, higher RG differential, higher Intermediate differential and the particle coverstock (for greater oil handling, earlier lane "bite" and smoother backend) from the Defiant. Plus it starts off with a rougher surface, 2000 grit vs the ZG's 4000 grit.

Zero Gravity has higher RG, lower RG Differential, lower intermediate differential and plain, but still strong  resin coverstock.

Just from that alone, it would appear that the HP is designed for true heavy oil and speed dominant players, while the ZG is designed for medium to medium-heavy oil and more more matched or rev dominant players.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Rightycomplex on December 28, 2013, 06:20:48 AM
+1 with Charlest.

Also, the Zero Gravity will be more usable on THS and driller friendly. With asyms, normally, it's low RG's and High Diffs to get the ball rolling earlier and the cover is tweaked to help the ball save energy. In this case, as with the BYTE, the RG is raised and Diff is lowered to help the ball save energy thru the core. It should be a step up from the Byte.
The Hyper Cell is your typical oiler with a strong cover and core. And of course the "My Hyper Cell doesn't hook" or "My Hyper Cell died" threads will start some time soon. However, let's understand, if you don't have the oil, the Hyper Cell will burn up and appear not to hook.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Elimeno Pee on December 28, 2013, 07:40:21 AM
Is it Jan 7th yet?
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: mattypizon on December 28, 2013, 07:51:48 AM
Jan 7th? My driller has them in stock now!
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Elimeno Pee on December 28, 2013, 08:22:42 AM
Jan 7th? My driller has them in stock now!

Can't technically use em yet though...
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: billdozer on December 28, 2013, 09:27:42 AM
Jan 7th? My driller has them in stock now!

Can't technically use em yet though...

Who's telling?
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: trucker792 on December 28, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
I got one a hc a week ago.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: SVstar34 on December 28, 2013, 11:25:53 AM
Jan 7th? My driller has them in stock now!

Can't technically use em yet though...

You can use a ball as long as it is on the approved list and Hyper Cell has been on the list for a couple months actually.

The Hyper Cell will be more ball than the Zero a better comparison would be the Nano...assuming because of the cover with particle. I love the look of the Zero Gravity and I think we'll be seeing a lot of it, ball is more bowler and driller friendly
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: vkowalski1970 on December 28, 2013, 11:28:32 AM
Trucker.....whats your impression of the ball...
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: trucker792 on December 28, 2013, 11:54:13 AM
only throw it 4 times so far. and that was on  old wood lanes it hook early.  Saving it for up coming tournaments. I live in a small town so I bowl league on wood lanes.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Gizmo823 on December 30, 2013, 07:47:07 AM
Whatever the numbers, the Zero Gravity rolls like an Invasion. 
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: ccrider on December 30, 2013, 08:03:10 AM
Whatever the numbers, the Zero Gravity rolls like an Invasion. 
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Whatever the numbers, the Zero Gravity rolls like an Invasion. 

UGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 30, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
Really??

I find my Invasion to roll at my feet!  I hope not!

Regards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Gizmo823 on December 30, 2013, 09:18:31 AM
I haven't seen an Invasion roll at anybody's feet . . but here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urVRh88lTN8  Invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsPdSMGdc8s  Zero Gravity

Same bowler, "different ball," same reaction. 
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: RotoWorld on December 30, 2013, 09:49:17 AM
Looks like the drill patterns are different on the 2 videos and I am sure the shot is different as one is open bowling and one is the BowlerDeals House shot that they get setup for them.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2013, 09:59:20 AM
Whatever the numbers, the Zero Gravity rolls like an Invasion.

Geez! I certainly hope not!!
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Gizmo823 on December 30, 2013, 10:12:08 AM
Yes, but the way a ball rolls and reacts is predominant, otherwise how can you compare them?  Or why would anyone put any stock into reviews at all?  If somebody bowls on a different shot than me with a different layout, the point of this site would be completely irrelevant.  Why watch videos?  Why look at numbers?  But if a 4 year old ball can be made to look like a brand new ball with a certain layout on a certain shot, then what's really so different?  There's not really any "new" anymore, it's really just different.  They can tweak or change just enough to make it different from what came out before.  You all notice that RGs are getting higher again?  There for a while all the high end stuff was in the 2.48-2.52 range.  Now they're gradually starting to creep up.  Give it another few years and they'll predominantly go back down.  Anything to keep people on the hook to buy new equipment. 

Looks like the drill patterns are different on the 2 videos and I am sure the shot is different as one is open bowling and one is the BowlerDeals House shot that they get setup for them.
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: Elimeno Pee on December 31, 2013, 04:48:44 AM
Since I've really started paying closer attention, I've noticed in the last couple years, Roto Grip seems to be putting out equipment that hooks later in the lane, where Storm seems to be more mid lane grabbing. 

Put it another way, I used to enjoy my Hy-Road.   But I developed past it, and could not use it towards the end.   I now very much enjoy the HP4 line, but Storm hasn't caught my eye on a ball since the Nano's, which I was too late to the party for.

If you ask me, I would say a higher rev, more power player is likely to enjoy the Hyper Cell more than the Zero, and possibly a Lower rev, more feather shot will like the ZG better
Title: Re: Zero Gravity = Hyper Cell ?
Post by: luvmykings on December 31, 2013, 12:42:16 PM
Is it Jan 7th yet?
I have the Mutant Cell Pearl and love it. Can't wait for Hyper